Illini Basketball 2026-2027

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Meh

Its an awful lot of unnecessary & frankly 'sports curse/hex' irrational non-thinking, sample size is 3 whole games and been favored once

Dan is 4-10 vs McDermott... not sure even that sample size is very telling, is it?

EDIT: Bulls & Pistons were in same division, they played each other like 15x per season, NBA vs CBB, was 40 years ago, etcetera etcetera... I don't see a 'mental hurdle' we have to get past with UConn... if we lose to them again this year, that will suck, but I don't think it means we are cooked either though



Yes 100%

Also: I forgot about the Duke game

Wondering if that has the same juju attached to it where if we lose that one singular game then we will just never 'get to the next level as a program' (as it was put)
 
#427      
Meh

Its an awful lot of unnecessary & frankly 'sports curse/hex' irrational non-thinking, sample size is 3 whole games and been favored once

While true, I think the effort UConn showed was impressive, and there's another level Illinois (or most teams) need to have for the tournament to get to a natty.
 
#428      
While true, I think the effort UConn showed was impressive, and there's another level Illinois (or most teams) need to have for the tournament to get to a natty.

I'll validate your opinion but we saw it differently:

Personally was proud of our effort in the F4 game, we shot 34% overall and 6-26 from three while UConn had all sorts of shots bounce around the rim and fall in
 
#429      
Golf is simply not enough entertainment to get me through the summer! I need CFB and Illini basketball back immediately!
 
#430      
I can't see Coleman and Vaacks matching almost 64 mpg. I am guessing 20 to 25 bench minutes will be available with Morillo getting most of them.
Why not? Perhaps not quite 64, but almost certainly over 60.

Jake and Andrej will be on the floor together pretty often. I don't think you accounted for that possibility.

Vaaks averaged 31 mpg last season.

A sampling of 5 star freshman guards last year, suggests 30 minutes from Coleman is not crazy.

Mikel Brown (29 mpg)
Brayden Burries (29 mpg)
Kingston Flemings (31 mpg)
Darrius Acuff (35 mpg)
Darryn Peterson (29 mpg)

MPG is always a noisy stat anyway, because you don't get penalized for games in which you don't appear.

There will be minutes for the other freshmen, but they are likely to be hard to earn. I think Morillo will have a role, but I'd be surprised to see 15 mpg.
 
#431      
While true, I think the effort UConn showed was impressive, and there's another level Illinois (or most teams) need to have for the tournament to get to a natty.
I'll validate your opinion but we saw it differently:

Personally was proud of our effort in the F4 game, we shot 34% overall and 6-26 from three while UConn had all sorts of shots bounce around the rim and fall in
I think both are true. I've played this back a lot.

After the FF game there was a bit of commentary about how UConn just outplayed Illinois. I don't agree with that. UConn went on one 7 minute-ish run and outside of that run, Illinois actually outscored them. They outplayed us for 7 minutes out of 40.

But they also didn't have a 7 minute lapse like we did. And I do think part of that could be because they've been there before and they were a little more prepared for the moment mentally. And I can see where that can be described as taking it to "another level". But I don't think it was an issue of effort necessarily. More like focus or concentration... the mental toughness stuff that affects the outcomes in the margins. They were a little bit better than us in that regard.

Just my take on it.
 
#432      
I think both are true. I've played this back a lot.

After the FF game there was a bit of commentary about how UConn just outplayed Illinois. I don't agree with that. UConn went on one 7 minute-ish run and outside of that run, Illinois actually outscored them. They outplayed us for 7 minutes out of 40.

But they also didn't have a 7 minute lapse like we did. And I do think part of that could be because they've been there before and they were a little more prepared for the moment mentally. And I can see where that can be described as taking it to "another level". But I don't think it was an issue of effort necessarily. More like focus or concentration... the mental toughness stuff that affects the outcomes in the margins. They were a little bit better than us in that regard.

Just my take on it.

Totally agree with 100 percent of this

I think, now stewing on it for a bit, my objection was simply that a single November matchup vs UConn is not going to be a program-changing swing point

Edit: oh and also - more to the point of the original comment - that our recent 3 game skid vs UConn doesn’t automagically mean they have a better team next year

We absolutely must have that game circled though
 
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#433      
I can see Coleman and Vaacks doing pretty close to 64m between them. Can Andrej play SG for 5 minutes, giving Jake 5 more minutes at SF?
Can Jake and Andrej play on the wings together with Vaaks or Coleman? Absolutely. It’s college basketball and they are really good. Too much goes into comparing 2s and 3s, IMO.

Last year we had times with Keaton, Ben, Mirk, Z, and Tomi in the game together. We be all right.
 
#434      
I think both are true. I've played this back a lot.

After the FF game there was a bit of commentary about how UConn just outplayed Illinois. I don't agree with that. UConn went on one 7 minute-ish run and outside of that run, Illinois actually outscored them. They outplayed us for 7 minutes out of 40.

But they also didn't have a 7 minute lapse like we did. And I do think part of that could be because they've been there before and they were a little more prepared for the moment mentally. And I can see where that can be described as taking it to "another level". But I don't think it was an issue of effort necessarily. More like focus or concentration... the mental toughness stuff that affects the outcomes in the margins. They were a little bit better than us in that regard.

Just my take on it.
This is correct. UConn had the game luck that day. We did not. We got plenty of good open shots that just didn't fall. UConn played well & got a few luck plays to go their way. IMO, we were the better team. We just didn't do the one thing that matters the most. Put the ball in the hole. I suspect we were a little "spooked" especially early in the game and were kind of in catch up mode the rest of the day. Never could hit enough shots in a row to sustain anything.
 
#435      
This is correct. UConn had the game luck that day. We did not. We got plenty of good open shots that just didn't fall. UConn played well & got a few luck plays to go their way. IMO, we were the better team. We just didn't do the one thing that matters the most. Put the ball in the hole. I suspect we were a little "spooked" especially early in the game and were kind of in catch up mode the rest of the day. Never could hit enough shots in a row to sustain anything.

I will say by no means do I think we were the better team, they beat us twice by an average of 11 points

However, the difference between the teams was closer than both scores indicate, imo, and I don’t believe them beating us in past matchups should automatically mean they’re ranked higher going into next year (again, going back to original point that was made)
 
#436      
Why not? Perhaps not quite 64, but almost certainly over 60.

Jake and Andrej will be on the floor together pretty often. I don't think you accounted for that possibility.

Vaaks averaged 31 mpg last season.

A sampling of 5 star freshman guards last year, suggests 30 minutes from Coleman is not crazy.

Mikel Brown (29 mpg)
Brayden Burries (29 mpg)
Kingston Flemings (31 mpg)
Darrius Acuff (35 mpg)
Darryn Peterson (29 mpg)

MPG is always a noisy stat anyway, because you don't get penalized for games in which you don't appear.

There will be minutes for the other freshmen, but they are likely to be hard to earn. I think Morillo will have a role, but I'd be surprised to see 15 mpg.
All good points.

I am hoping Lucas Morillo is good enough we won't need Vaaks and Coleman to combine for 60+.

Andrej and Jake together could be with Andrej at the 2. Or with one in / four out 'small ball'.

Nobody knows exactly how the freshmen will fit in. I think we are asking the right questions. The answers have yet to be determined.
 
#437      
This is correct. UConn had the game luck that day. We did not. We got plenty of good open shots that just didn't fall. UConn played well & got a few luck plays to go their way. IMO, we were the better team. We just didn't do the one thing that matters the most. Put the ball in the hole. I suspect we were a little "spooked" especially early in the game and were kind of in catch up mode the rest of the day. Never could hit enough shots in a row to sustain anything.
They were the better team. They beat us twice by a decent margin. Putting the ball in the hold isn't about luck.
 
#438      
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#440      
I'll validate your opinion but we saw it differently:

Personally was proud of our effort in the F4 game, we shot 34% overall and 6-26 from three while UConn had all sorts of shots bounce around the rim and fall in
I was there and left feeling the same. Our defense was solid and the margin of victory was UConn’s lucky bank shots/ shots bouncing 3 feet up off the rim and falling in.

Having said that, it’s the very definition of juju, and UConn has it with us.
 
#441      
Having said that, it’s the very definition of juju, and UConn has it with us.

I don’t think the other 2 games played out like that with a lot of lucky bounces as that F4 game did

I also just don’t believe in juju, hexes, curses or sorcery, etc
 
#442      
They were the better team. They beat us twice by a decent margin. Putting the ball in the hold isn't about luck.
They banked in two 3s and solo ball had two back iron bricks that bounced up 4-5 ft and somehow went in, 11 lucky !!! points by my count as one of the ball shots was a 3

Meanwhile there were IG reels about stojakovics missed layup that went in/out and around only to stick on the back rim for 1-2 seconds and fall out that had fans of all teams baffled
 
#443      
Sheesh, glad I do not subscribe to this defeatist 'we can never beat or be as good as UConn' attitude
You should subscribe to better comprehension. Taking something out of context. Bottomline, Illinois has not beaten or played well against UCONN the last 3 meetings. Closely matched teams, UCONN deserves to be ranked higher....doesn't mean we can't or never will beat them.
 
#444      
You should subscribe to better comprehension. Taking something out of context. Bottomline, Illinois has not beaten or played well against UCONN the last 3 meetings. Closely matched teams, UCONN deserves to be ranked higher....doesn't mean we can't or never will beat them.

Prior season or All Time h2h records are just not something that will be factored into how we will be ranked this year
 
#445      
Prior season or All Time h2h records are just not something that will be factored into how we will be ranked this year
Same coaches and likely same schemes. Been watching college bball too long, inertia of programs are a factor. Just talking last 3 games.
 
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