Are we at 2 pumps or 3?
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Bigtex
- DFW
Pretty much could be said about entire Illinois' roster.
Beat your man with the dribble
Stay in front of your man on defense.
sacraig
- The desert
I think the extra COVID year has just added to the transfer portal craziness because there are now more college basketball players with extra eligibility than ever before.
Players who are in Coleman Hawkins' class were freshman when the extra year was awarded, so there are two years left of extra COVID year eligible athletes. After that it will hopefully slow down a little, including for reasons like you mentioned about the grass not always being greener.
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
Not sure why so many folks want to vehemently assert their own uninformed guesses instead of just waiting to see how things play out. It’s no great feat to guess correctly on a 50/50 proposition…
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ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Yeah this is a good and underrated point.
The number of eligible college basketball players is currently artificially inflated, which naturally leads to unusual churn.
They are also (apparently) going to be restricting free no-sit transfers to one per player, which will also be a churn-reducing factor.
We'll see where it goes.
My wife will buy me the occasional new Illini shirt, but I'm struggling to recall the last time I personally did. I have a closet full of stuff with the Chief logo and you're not going to find that anymore. I guess I'm just that retro guy forever.
illini80
- Forgottonia
To court would be my guess. The standard seems to be coaches are not restricted, so how is fair for players to be. I just don’t see the argument that once is fair and twice isn’t.
I'd like to think you're right, but humanity in general isn't very good at learning that lesson and we are talking about a fresh crop of 18-22 year olds every few years. My guess is that a large number of them will continue to make the same mistakes because they're there for the making.
Hopfully that's just the rotton cynicism of a decaying old fart.
Fanatics carries a number of items with the Chief logo. It's all that I will buy at this point.
The Sprouting Divot
Invisible and Bulletproof
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As a fellow cynically rotten fart, I'd also point out that the general "grass isn't always greener" lesson is likely to be especially difficult for P5-level athletes - many of whom believe that they will buck the odds and make it to the NBA because in their minds, they're different than all of the many others who came before them but did not make it for whatever reason.
The same "yeah, but I'm me" cognitive bias will likely continue to fuel potentially unrealistic expectations about new levels of success following a change of scenery.
So you admit it’s an opinion. And nice job trying to change the tone of original post.
NASchamp
- Atlanta
Been thinking the same thing. Really surprised if he goes after how much BU and the team (and fans!) stood by him last year during his struggles. Not wanting to lose him due to his potential, not as much concerned with replacing his output from this past season. Plus, I genuinely want to see the kid succeed, but if he transfers I’ll be forced to put him on the list and cheer against him. (That last part is sarcasm - mostly
).I think the answer is likely multi-year contracts. There is a reason the NBA(and all pro teams) don't typically sign people to one year deals, especially young developing players with believed potential. You don't want to put the work in just to see them go elsewhere. It wastes your time as an organization, it wastes your money, and it hurts the overall product for the consumer(i.e the fans). If fans can no longer root for particular players with any belief that they will be back then they will not be as attached to the teams. Less fanatic fans buy less product. (Who wants to buy some slightly used Clark and Epps jerseys? I'm sure they are easy to find.)Organizations make less money and players NIL starts diminishing. Everyone loses outside of a very few programs that will have donors continue to toss their money away. But the real money is in tv deals...and when the product loses interest with those it once drew in those deals will also go down.
The NCAA by turning itself into an academic G-League might wind up with the same viewership down the road...without the NBA subsidizing them. The problem is these impacts won't happen for a few more years when it might be too late.
But we are just a couple years in to this and I'm already starting to care less. That's not a great sign for the common fan as Illinois Basketball has been (sadly) important to me over several decades.
Schrodinger's basketball player....
May be he is looking to see who Brad brings in before committing anything. If Brad brings in a similar guy, them he could move on, but if Brad brings in a solid PG and in their meetings explain what his role is next year, he might stay.
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HUH? You do have an opinion, but it is just that. (read your own words) Remember you said this. i don't buy it yet.
I'm seriously not sure Hawkins is an NBA player, at least not yet. needs a year where he is less of a college level
liability. Show his strengths, learns his role. That's what NBA players do.
Everything is fine, good night.
redwingillini11
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