Illini Football 2022

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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Bielema again mentioning Jacas and Mc-Cantos during his media time. Also mentioned Kreutz but admitted he's currently stuck behind a good group of interior linebackers.
 
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2 questions

1) how much of not going for some of those 4th downs last year was BB conservative play calling preference vs not trusting TP to dial up the right play?

2) Do you mean that our new OC will actually take advantage of TDV’s mobility while also having different plays at the ready (just in case) for a qb who might be more of an in the pocket type? Because that would show competence but I don’t want to get excited and be let down.
1. You’d have to ask Bret that. I couldn’t tell you for sure. Probably a little bit of both of I had to guess.
2. Yes lol
 
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ESPN.com article on best 2023 draft prospects and who could rise and fall (It's behind a paywall FYI): https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/...ollege-football-teams-players-star-rise-class

They list Chase Brown as the top Illini draft prospect and the writer mentions that he has a Day 3 grade with room to push up boards.

The other B1G prospects and where they could see them going in the draft (if mentioned):
-Indiana: Taiwan Mullen, CB (Could be Day 2 pick if he stays healthy)
-Iowa: Jack Campbell, LB (Potential Round 1 talent)
-Maryland: Dontay Demus Jr., WR (Could potentially be top-50 pick if he and Tagovailoa can build chemistry)
-Michigan: Ronnie Bell, WR (Day 2 ability when healthy)
-Michigan State: Jacob Slade, DT (Potential riser with early Day 3 grade)
-Minnesota: John Michael Schmitz, C (Potential Day 2 prospect)
-Nebraska: Casey Thompson, QB
-Northwestern: Peter Skronoski, OT (Could be first OT taken in 2023 draft)
-Ohio State: C.J. Stroud, QB
-Penn State: Joey Porter, Jr., (Potential first round pick)
-Purdue: Aidan O'Connell, QB (Day 3 prospect with talent to rise with a good season)
-Rutgers: Avery Young, S (Day 3 prospect)
-Wisconsin: Nick Herbig (Day 1 draft potential)
 
#162      

altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Oh I twisted it.

The scene from The Big Picture had the young writer saying he was from Ohio and the LA studio exec saying "oh really? My first wife is from Illinois."

Illinois-Indiana-Ohio is all flyover country to them.
As a freshman at Illinois in '84 I'd answer "Ohio" when someone asked where I was from. Then often the other person would say "Oh, I've been to Iowa. Did you grow up on a farm?"

Not kidding. It happened repeatedly. Head-scratching, that.

It was like anything east of Indy was that place on the map labelled "Here Be Monsters" and festooned with sea serpents. You can run with that if you like. ;)
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
I started to watched that last night about 11. Talk about total domination. Offense couldn't be stopped and that defense,man did they hit!! Can't believe he turned that team around so fast,too bad he couldn't sustain it.
That '99 Micron PC Bowl beatdown was delicious and epic. I had the good fortune of watching it that evening with my girlfriend at the time, a UVa grad, and several of her UVa classmates.

They talked trash pregame. My girlfriend was sufficiently cocky that she bet me a dinner at the top French restaurant in DC at the time. [Metaphor alert: it burned down several months later and I was unable to collect on the wager.]

Early in the second qtr they STFU. By halftime I felt like a sadist, such was my relishing of their anguish and shame. To this day it stands with the 2004 tourney beatdown of Cincy and the evisceration of WF at the Hall that December, as golden memories of the Illini crushing their enemies and seeing those dear to them bathed in tears.
 
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Early in the second qtr they STFU. By halftime I felt like a sadist, such was my relishing of their anguish and shame. To this day it stands with the 2004 tourney beatdown of Cincy and the evisceration of WF at the Hall that December, as golden memories of the Illini crushing their enemies and seeing those dear to them bathed in tears.
That was one of my favorite games as well, after having lived in VA for a few years in the early 90's and listening to the tie-wearing UVA fans. It was a beautiful beat down.
 
#166      
That '99 Micron PC Bowl beatdown was delicious and epic. I had the good fortune of watching it that evening with my girlfriend at the time, a UVa grad, and several of her UVa classmates.

They talked trash pregame. My girlfriend was sufficiently cocky that she bet me a dinner at the top French restaurant in DC at the time. [Metaphor alert: it burned down several months later and I was unable to collect on the wager.]

Early in the second qtr they STFU. By halftime I felt like a sadist, such was my relishing of their anguish and shame. To this day it stands with the 2004 tourney beatdown of Cincy and the evisceration of WF at the Hall that December, as golden memories of the Illini crushing their enemies and seeing those dear to them bathed in tears.
This win was awfully sweet. It obviously didn't turn out this way, but between '99 and '01 I thought RT was going to be successful here for a long time.
 
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I started to watched that last night about 11. Talk about total domination. Offense couldn't be stopped and that defense,man did they hit!! Can't believe he turned that team around so fast,too bad he couldn't sustain it.
That 2nd quarter was ridiculous. From 14-7 to 42-7 before you knew it.
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
This win was awfully sweet. It obviously didn't turn out this way, but between '99 and '01 I thought RT was going to be successful here for a long time.
its hardly unprecedented in football (see Kansas 2007) , but it was mystifyingly strange how we were on such an upward trajectory from 1999-2001, and then all the wheels fell off all at once after that. Same goes for the Zook era right after the 2007 Rose Bowl year.
 
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If we just go back only 20 years(or can go longer) Bret Bielema is the first respectable college coach we have hired that checks all the boxes. He talks the talk and walks the walk. Also surrounds himself with a great staff from top to bottom.

Lovie, Zook and Turner all checked off certain boxes and specialized in certain areas of the game. Definitely felt like when they got hired they were specialized as an offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator, etc. It was how they were going to adapt to other areas of the game and who they would bring in to help them.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
its hardly unprecedented in football (see Kansas 2007) , but it was mystifyingly strange how we were on such an upward trajectory from 1999-2001, and then all the wheels fell off all at once after that. Same goes for the Zook era right after the 2007 Rose Bowl year.
The Turner collapse is pretty much as simple as a pretty pedestrian overall talent level losing a superlative college quarterback and not replacing him adequately. We went from an A to a D at the most important position on the field and never fixed it.

Get Aaron Rodgers or Jay Cutler onto campus as Kittner's long term replacement as was agonizingly close and Turner might still be here.

On the other hand Ron Zook going 8-16 in 2008-09 with the players he had is one of the all-time great mysteries. There are easily 7-8 games in those two years there's no way on earth we should have lost.
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
ESPN.com article on best 2023 draft prospects and who could rise and fall (It's behind a paywall FYI): https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/...ollege-football-teams-players-star-rise-class

They list Chase Brown as the top Illini draft prospect and the writer mentions that he has a Day 3 grade with room to push up boards.

The other B1G prospects and where they could see them going in the draft (if mentioned):
-Indiana: Taiwan Mullen, CB (Could be Day 2 pick if he stays healthy)
-Iowa: Jack Campbell, LB (Potential Round 1 talent)
-Maryland: Dontay Demus Jr., WR (Could potentially be top-50 pick if he and Tagovailoa can build chemistry)
-Michigan: Ronnie Bell, WR (Day 2 ability when healthy)
-Michigan State: Jacob Slade, DT (Potential riser with early Day 3 grade)
-Minnesota: John Michael Schmitz, C (Potential Day 2 prospect)
-Nebraska: Casey Thompson, QB
-Northwestern: Peter Skronoski, OT (Could be first OT taken in 2023 draft)
-Ohio State: C.J. Stroud, QB
-Penn State: Joey Porter, Jr., (Potential first round pick)
-Purdue: Aidan O'Connell, QB (Day 3 prospect with talent to rise with a good season)
-Rutgers: Avery Young, S (Day 3 prospect)
-Wisconsin: Nick Herbig (Day 1 draft potential)

This is an extremely lazy list. This reads as if the writer was trying to blend between which player on each team is the current star on the team and still has NFL hopes. A top-10 Michigan's best player is a 6-foot senior WR who just tore his ACL and has 27 catches the past two years? Nebraska's best player is a transfer QB who had a pretty meh last season at Texas? Aidan O'Connell is the best pro prospect on Purdue's roster? Slade is very similar to Rod Perry, that can't be the best pro prospect on a resurgent MSU roster.
 
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The Turner collapse is pretty much as simple as a pretty pedestrian overall talent level losing a superlative college quarterback and not replacing him adequately. We went from an A to a D at the most important position on the field and never fixed it.

Get Aaron Rodgers or Jay Cutler onto campus as Kittner's long term replacement as was agonizingly close and Turner might still be here.

On the other hand Ron Zook going 8-16 in 2008-09 with the players he had is one of the all-time great mysteries. There are easily 7-8 games in those two years there's no way on earth we should have lost.
You can extend that through 2011 re: Zook. A good coach wins 8-10 games a year with the talent Zook had.

Agree re: RT - if we land Rodgers or Cutler, RT probably retires from here after 20 years of consistent success.
 
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