Illini Football 2025

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2025 Illini Football (9-4, 5-4)
DateOpponentResult
Fri, Aug 29Western IllinoisW 52-3
Sat, Sept 6at DukeW 45-19
Sat, Sept 13Western MichiganW 38-0
Sat, Sept 20at IndianaL 10-63
Sat, Sept 27USCW 34-32
Sat, Oct 4at PurdueW 43-27
Sat, Oct 11Ohio StateL 16-34
Sat, Oct 25at WashingtonL 25-42
Sat, Nov 1RutgersW 35-13
Sat, Nov 15MarylandW 24-6
Sat, Nov 22at WisconsinL 10-27
Sat, Nov 29NorthwesternW 20-13
Tue, Dec 30TennesseeW 30-28

All times CT
 
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Is this the rare thread where #3 is #1?

The number trackers are gonna have to keep a close eye on this one.
 
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Before we get to 2026, a final accounting of the 2025 predictions. Nailed the overall record but not so much all the details...

Western Illinois / Western Michigan - we did not follow my request and it cost us X (and an 'x' amount of wins, where 'x' is an unknown variable).
Duke - spot on, and possible ACC champs? Best win of the regular season, or USC?
Indiana - biggest miss of the year and boy was I wrong here.
USC - was right about the 'not a 6-0 start' but one game late.
Purdue / OSU / Rutgers - easy picks and went as expected.
Washington - never felt good about this game as they are nearly untouchable in Seattle.
Maryland / Wisconsin - one game off again. Still think Wisconsin is a mess but our mess-the-bed annual game was worse.
NW - closer than I wanted but a good outcome and fun atmosphere to end the season.

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Before we get to 2026, a final accounting of the 2025 predictions. Nailed the overall record but not so much all the details...

Western Illinois / Western Michigan - we did not follow my request and it cost us X (and an 'x' amount of wins, where 'x' is an unknown variable).
Duke - spot on, and possible ACC champs? Best win of the regular season, or USC?
Indiana - biggest miss of the year and boy was I wrong here.
USC - was right about the 'not a 6-0 start' but one game late.
Purdue / OSU / Rutgers - easy picks and went as expected.
Washington - never felt good about this game as they are nearly untouchable in Seattle.
Maryland / Wisconsin - one game off again. Still think Wisconsin is a mess but our mess-the-bed annual game was worse.
NW - closer than I wanted but a good outcome and fun atmosphere to end the season.

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Before we get to 2026, a final accounting of the 2025 predictions. Nailed the overall record but not so much all the details...

Western Illinois / Western Michigan - we did not follow my request and it cost us X (and an 'x' amount of wins, where 'x' is an unknown variable).
Duke - spot on, and possible ACC champs? Best win of the regular season, or USC?
Indiana - biggest miss of the year and boy was I wrong here.
USC - was right about the 'not a 6-0 start' but one game late.
Purdue / OSU / Rutgers - easy picks and went as expected.
Washington - never felt good about this game as they are nearly untouchable in Seattle.
Maryland / Wisconsin - one game off again. Still think Wisconsin is a mess but our mess-the-bed annual game was worse.
NW - closer than I wanted but a good outcome and fun atmosphere to end the season.

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USC is the best win. I'm guessing USC v Duke on a neutral field would be USC -8.5. Maybe more?
 
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USC is the best win. I'm guessing USC v Duke on a neutral field would be USC -8.5. Maybe more?
Don't disagree with your numbers, but to the general public (if Duke beats UVa) IMO it sounds better to have beaten the ACC champions vs. the tied-for-4th-place B1G team. Optics, etc. Still both very high quality wins.
 
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I was thinking today about how the "shape" of a season can really change how we feel about it. For example, there was no "high" for the 2024 season that ever approached how we all felt sitting at 7-1 and just having demolished Nebraska in Lincoln in 2022 ... but we didn't finish that season how we all would have wanted. Flipping to basketball for a second, let's use our 2002 and 2004 teams as an example. Here is an "on-paper" comparison:

--- Quick Basketball-Related Break ---

Category:
2002 ... 2004

Record: 26-9 (11-5) ... 26-7 (13-3)
Final AP Rank: #13 ... #13
Big Ten Standings: Big Ten Champions (tied) ... Big Ten Champions (outright)
Big Ten Tournament: Lost in BTT Semifinals ... Lost in BTT Championship
NCAAT Seed: #4 Seed ... #5 Seed
NCAAT Result: Sweet Sixteen ... Sweet Sixteen

Very, very similar overall. 2004 might have had a better record and won the Big Ten outright, but 2002 played a harder schedule and got a higher seed, etc. While I am sure fans would have fond memories of both, my hunch is that the 2004 team might be remembered a tad more fondly by a slim majority. Why?

For one, the 2002 team was preseason #2 while the 2004 team was preseason #12, but I think it's not really about expectations. The 2002 team sort of "felt the same" all year, even through some losing streaks and winning streaks. I think a lot of fans felt the same about our March Madness chances in mid-January when we were 13-4 and ranked #11 as they did when we were 23-7 on March 3 and ranked #15.

Conversely, the 2004 team took its lumps early and even fell out of the top 25 for a streak that lasted until February 25! But they responded to that midseason adversity by winning 12 straight games heading into the BTT Championship vs. Wisconsin (which we lost), and I think fans were feeling like they were part of some wild ride. Then our road to the Sweet Sixteen that year involved absolutely demolishing a highly-hyped #4 seed Cincinnati team (that had talked plenty of smack publicly!) before putting up a fight we just couldn't win vs. a #1 seed Duke ... and we then had everyone coming back for what we knew would be a special year in 2005.

--- Back to My Football Point ---

What if this season's exact results had occurred in a different order, simply due to the schedule? Imagine this path to 8-4 instead ... for simplicity's sake, I just used whatever our opponents' rankings ended up being on the new date we played them if it was switched.

Aug. 29 - W 52-3 vs. Western Illinois
Sept. 6 - W 45-19 at Duke
Sept. 13 - W 38-0 vs. Western Michigan
Sept. 20 - L 25-42 at Washington
Sept. 27 W 24-6 vs. Maryland
Oct. 4 - L 10-27 at Wisconsin
Oct. 11 - L 16-34 vs. #1 Ohio State
Oct. 18 - BYE WEEK
Oct. 25 - W 35-13 vs. Rutgers
Nov. 1 - L 10-63 at #2 Indiana
Nov. 8 - BYE WEEK
Nov. 15 - W 43-27 at Purdue
Nov. 22 - W 34-32 vs. #15 USC
Nov. 29 - W 20-13 vs. Northwestern

All of a sudden, it's easy to spin this positive narrative...

1) We started off "taking care of business" to get to 3-0, but we lost our first road game of the season on the West Coast. We didn't look great doing it, but it's not that big of a deal ... then we returned home and handily beat Maryland, only giving up 6 points and seemingly addressing our defensive issues.

2) We have a TOTAL dud performance at Wisconsin to fall to 3-2, but we turn around and give the OSU defense its biggest challenge to-date, even though we lost. While everyone is sad we dropped to 3-3, the fan base sees a long slate of winnable games besides at Indiana.

3) After a bye week, we handle Rutgers at home and look good doing it. We get demolished at now-#2 Indiana, but people take it more how they took the Oregon loss last year - an expected butt whoopin' vs. a top 2 team, not a shock to the system. After looking good vs. RU, we attribute the loss in Bloomington less to us and more to Indiana just being really, really good.

4) After spending a bye week recovering from the Indiana loss, we rattle off three straight victories, including a relatively easy road win in West Lafayette and finally our "signature win" vs. a top 15 USC squad. With the season ending on a 3-game winning streak and winning 4 of our last 5 and the lone loss being at #2 Indiana, we are being recognized as one of the "hotter teams in the country" heading into our bowl game.

I'm not excusing any of the issues this year, and I got as frustrated as anyone at times ... but it is food for thought.
 
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I was thinking today about how the "shape" of a season can really change how we feel about it. For example, there was no "high" for the 2024 season that ever approached how we all felt sitting at 7-1 and just having demolished Nebraska in Lincoln in 2022 ... but we didn't finish that season how we all would have wanted. Flipping to basketball for a second, let's use our 2002 and 2004 teams as an example. Here is an "on-paper" comparison:

--- Quick Basketball-Related Break ---

Category:
2002 ... 2004

Record: 26-9 (11-5) ... 26-7 (13-3)
Final AP Rank: #13 ... #13
Big Ten Standings: Big Ten Champions (tied) ... Big Ten Champions (outright)
Big Ten Tournament: Lost in BTT Semifinals ... Lost in BTT Championship
NCAAT Seed: #4 Seed ... #5 Seed
NCAAT Result: Sweet Sixteen ... Sweet Sixteen

Very, very similar overall. 2004 might have had a better record and won the Big Ten outright, but 2002 played a harder schedule and got a higher seed, etc. While I am sure fans would have fond memories of both, my hunch is that the 2004 team might be remembered a tad more fondly by a slim majority. Why?

For one, the 2002 team was preseason #2 while the 2004 team was preseason #12, but I think it's not really about expectations. The 2002 team sort of "felt the same" all year, even through some losing streaks and winning streaks. I think a lot of fans felt the same about our March Madness chances in mid-January when we were 13-4 and ranked #11 as they did when we were 23-7 on March 3 and ranked #15.

Conversely, the 2004 team took its lumps early and even fell out of the top 25 for a streak that lasted until February 25! But they responded to that midseason adversity by winning 12 straight games heading into the BTT Championship vs. Wisconsin (which we lost), and I think fans were feeling like they were part of some wild ride. Then our road to the Sweet Sixteen that year involved absolutely demolishing a highly-hyped #4 seed Cincinnati team (that had talked plenty of smack publicly!) before putting up a fight we just couldn't win vs. a #1 seed Duke ... and we then had everyone coming back for what we knew would be a special year in 2005.

--- Back to My Football Point ---

What if this season's exact results had occurred in a different order, simply due to the schedule? Imagine this path to 8-4 instead ... for simplicity's sake, I just used whatever our opponents' rankings ended up being on the new date we played them if it was switched.

Aug. 29 - W 52-3 vs. Western Illinois
Sept. 6 - W 45-19 at Duke
Sept. 13 - W 38-0 vs. Western Michigan
Sept. 20 - L 25-42 at Washington
Sept. 27 W 24-6 vs. Maryland
Oct. 4 - L 10-27 at Wisconsin
Oct. 11 - L 16-34 vs. #1 Ohio State
Oct. 18 - BYE WEEK
Oct. 25 - W 35-13 vs. Rutgers
Nov. 1 - L 10-63 at #2 Indiana
Nov. 8 - BYE WEEK
Nov. 15 - W 43-27 at Purdue
Nov. 22 - W 34-32 vs. #15 USC
Nov. 29 - W 20-13 vs. Northwestern

All of a sudden, it's easy to spin this positive narrative...

1) We started off "taking care of business" to get to 3-0, but we lost our first road game of the season on the West Coast. We didn't look great doing it, but it's not that big of a deal ... then we returned home and handily beat Maryland, only giving up 6 points and seemingly addressing our defensive issues.

2) We have a TOTAL dud performance at Wisconsin to fall to 3-2, but we turn around and give the OSU defense its biggest challenge to-date, even though we lost. While everyone is sad we dropped to 3-3, the fan base sees a long slate of winnable games besides at Indiana.

3) After a bye week, we handle Rutgers at home and look good doing it. We get demolished at now-#2 Indiana, but people take it more how they took the Oregon loss last year - an expected butt whoopin' vs. a top 2 team, not a shock to the system. After looking good vs. RU, we attribute the loss in Bloomington less to us and more to Indiana just being really, really good.

4) After spending a bye week recovering from the Indiana loss, we rattle off three straight victories, including a relatively easy road win in West Lafayette and finally our "signature win" vs. a top 15 USC squad. With the season ending on a 3-game winning streak and winning 4 of our last 5 and the lone loss being at #2 Indiana, we are being recognized as one of the "hotter teams in the country" heading into our bowl game.

I'm not excusing any of the issues this year, and I got as frustrated as anyone at times ... but it is food for thought.
63-10 is disgusting no matter where you put it on the schedule... lol I can't compare 38-9 in Eugene last year to 63-10 in Bloomington.
 
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63-10 is disgusting no matter where you put it on the schedule... lol I can't compare 38-9 in Eugene last year to 63-10 in Bloomington.
Okay, that part is fair enough, I am just saying that in general I think a lot of fans would have looked at this season even more favorably if we (A) had lost to Indiana when they had that #2 next to their name and (B) had not had the Wisconsin loss so close to the end of the season. The former would have sucked at any time, but I think it REALLY psychologically scarred us given when it occurred, because it really drove home that we just simply weren't a top 10 team, and it made that point in a particularly humiliating fashion, lol. The latter really just kind of sucked any feeling of regaining momentum away.
 
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Okay, that part is fair enough, I am just saying that in general I think a lot of fans would have looked at this season even more favorably if we (A) had lost to Indiana when they had that #2 next to their name and (B) had not had the Wisconsin loss so close to the end of the season. The former would have sucked at any time, but I think it REALLY psychologically scarred us given when it occurred, because it really drove home that we just simply weren't a top 10 team, and it made that point in a particularly humiliating fashion, lol. The latter really just kind of sucked any feeling of regaining momentum away.
Totally agree that it sucked the life out of us. Personally, I had two realizations - we weren't as good as we hoped (noticed I said "hoped" and not "expected"), but also Cignetti was about to show the world how quick you can make a nobody into something with NIL.

I truly believe Indiana beating the dog snot out of us changed the landscape of college football this year. So many dudes getting fired EARLY because they weren't Cignetti.
 
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Totally agree that it sucked the life out of us. Personally, I had two realizations - we weren't as good as we hoped (noticed I said "hoped" and not "expected"), but also Cignetti was about to show the world how quick you can make a nobody into something with NIL.

I truly believe Indiana beating the dog snot out of us changed the landscape of college football this year. So many dudes getting fired EARLY because they weren't Cignetti.
not only that, but to seemingly get so lucky that all these guys brought in the last two years were a$$ kickers . its unprecedented
 
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