Illini in the Pros (Basketball)

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That question has been answered a dozen times by a dozen people in the last day.

Yes. This discussion doesn't even exist on here if he answers that question with complimentary things about Michigan and opts not to dive into how we were going to ruin him. Really not difficult to see how "Illinois was going to mess up my development" is provocative to our fanbase, especially when we've put a lot of guys in the NBA the last few years.
 
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Really not difficult to see how "Illinois was going to mess up my development" is provocative to our fanbase, especially when we've put a lot of guys in the NBA the last few years.
“I didn’t feel comfortable with my future being there” was the exact quote.

Not “Illinois was going to mess up my development.”

Yes the two COULD mean similar things, but one’s always the more exaggerated version
 
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Can we please stop the morez/michigan blah blah who cares he left. He wasn't an Illini this past year and he wasn't an Illini when he got drafted and he won't be an "illini in the pro's" .. FFS move the hell on people or go make a thread in the general Sports section and get this crap out of the IlliniMBB section.

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“I didn’t feel comfortable with my future being there” was the exact quote.

Not “Illinois was going to mess up my development.”

Yes the two COULD mean similar things, but one’s always the more exaggerated version

I feel like we're really splitting hairs with some of this stuff. Those are interchangeable statements, unless you intentionally took the quote to mean he wasn't comfortable with his future as a furniture salesman / screen door technician / other thing that isn't basketball.

We also have the quote "didn't want to end up like Kofi"

Like, what else could he have meant?
 
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We also have the quote "didn't want to end up like Kofi"

Like, what else could he have meant?
Here’s the thing about the Kofi statement: he was NEVER gonna end up like Kofi. Whether that means the college success which he wasn’t going to replicate (didn’t stay long enough), or the NBA draft profile which he had that Kofi never had.

He’s SIGNIFICANTLY more agile and athletic. It’s not even close.

So, yeah, he didn’t end up like Kofi (NBA draft standpoint, which he was referring), but he was never going to. His NBA profile was significantly higher from the moment he graduated HS. Athletic numbers are off the charts at the combine.

It was just a matter of how quickly he’d showcase 1st round pick level production (answer ended up being sophomore year).
 
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So, what I hear you saying is that you question the strategy of head coaches EVERYWHERE who automatically sit players who get two fouls in the first half? Got it.

The reason that they do that is the player starts getting tentative in his play and trying "not to foul" instead of letting the game flow.

There are no wasted minutes, except when a player loses his aggressiveness on the court while trying to avoid his third foul. That's what happens if you leave him in. All coaches sit their best players if they get in foul trouble. those who don't pay a terrible price... like Augie vs UNC in that famous championship game (five fouls in nine minutes.)
Augie wasnt left in during the 1st half after picking up his 2nd foul. So bad example. He sat out the entire rest of the first half then fouled out late in the 2nd half. His 5 fouls in 9 minutes is less to do with coaching and more to do with May getting every ticky tack foul.
 
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“Trashing the program every chance he gets” is a bit exaggerated, imo.

I mean, if we’re that quick to judge, DGL does the same thing 🤷‍♀️. I don’t know why we’re so fixated on Morez (in terms of the “hate” aspect).
I don’t really want to involve myself in the Morez discussion, but to my knowledge, DGL has only done this once, and I was very saddened to see that he did.
 
#734      
He loves the program so much that he trashes it ever chance he gets. Makes sense.

Regarding the bolded, when Morez signed (two) agreements to stay at Illinois, do you think that was for a bench role? Or a starting role at the 4?
I thought you said your last statement was your last statement? Apparently your word is as good as Morez'. Stop trashing someone who made the best decision for his future. Its jealousy on your end. He was way overdraft in my opinion, but I root for heart.
 
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I don’t really want to involve myself in the Morez discussion, but to my knowledge, DGL has only done this once, and I was very saddened to see that he did.
To my knowledge, twice. Once in an article, and the other on Instagram stories. (the Instagram one was more aggressive of the two)
 
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Here’s the thing about the Kofi statement: he was NEVER gonna end up like Kofi. Whether that means the college success which he wasn’t going to replicate (didn’t stay long enough), or the NBA draft profile which he had that Kofi never had.

I totally agree and was taken back by the comment partly for that reason.

Back when he did this the first time I was on the other side of things, and I think persuaded to see (and now confirmed) is it indeed pretty bush league.

Anyhow, I should take a break from this chat, we're all just saying the same stuff over and over with different words at this point.

But mostly, man, DGL... then next we can't forget BS school being called... also, did Podz have this much to say?
 
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This was Piper’s reporting when the whole Morez thing broke.

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Essentially, my read would just be that he didn’t wanna be here.
 
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It's also a very different situation. DGL was told he wouldn't have a starting role or significant NLI on last year's team.
DGL starting doesn't make our team better (who is he playing over?). Morez starting does because he was our best PF option next to Tomi. We were just too busy hoping Ben would break out of his slump.
Him having a chip on his shoulder is much more relatable.
I think its the other way around. DGL always had the makings of a good player/scorer on a bad team. He needs the ball in his hands to make that happen - kinda like Epps.

Morez had the makings of one of the best players on a contender (evident by his year at Michigan). He just needed to see the court.
 
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