Illini in the Pros (Basketball)

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Dan

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This upcoming season there will be at least 5 Illini players playing in the NBA. When is the last time that was true? (Edit: 2006-2007 season it appears, where Powell played 3 games and Augie played 2).

And what's crazy is there are 3 or 4 Illini with a reasonable shot at being 1st round picks next in next year's draft (that's without someone having a Wagler-like unexpected breakout). Turning the NBA orange and blue one draft at a time.
 
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One of my top 3 favorite things about this board is topics being extended significantly by posters complaining about topics being extended.

For example, the first (and only) Morez post in the 5 or so hours this thread was open was...this.

It's Schrödinger's Morez, if you hadn't mentioned him, would anyone have mentioned him? Would he even still exist?

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One of my top 3 favorite things about this board is topics being extended significantly by posters complaining about topics being extended.

For example, the first (and only) Morez post in the 5 or so hours this thread was open was...this.

It's Schrödinger's Morez, if you hadn't mentioned him, would anyone have mentioned him? Would he even still exist?

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Before they started, it was a preemptive "shhhh".

Just know I have a whole bag of "shhh" with Morez's name on it.

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Very funny to me how Flemings and Wagler both ended up on their respective teams due to hysterically bad trades.

They both have the opportunity to make the trade look even worse, for New Orleans and Indiana.

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The Zubac trade is legitimately the worst I’ve seen since the Luka trade (perhaps even worse if you go with the direct logic that trading Luka got them Flagg).

The details are bonkers: they traded a top 4 protected pick, which landed at No. 5, and ended up being Wagler. Alongside, they also traded:

2029 unprotected first
Mathurin (who was a 17ppg scorer)
Isaiah Jackson

That’s an insane package for Zubac. Their GM came out apologizing to their fans, saying they really needed a “starting center.”

Then why not just draft Mara or Steinbach? Perhaps after a trade down if necessary? Perhaps Boozer or Wilson could also play the 5, who knows.

But this is absurd. If Wagler saves the Clippers — then they got stumped by OKC on a bad deal of their own, but get out of it with an equally bad deal (or perhaps worse) by IND.
 
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if kawhi gets traded for Ingram, how do we think that effects Keaton?
Kawhi was just traded for Ingram, Gradey Dick, two 1sts, two 2nds, and one pick swap.

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As far as Wagler goes, Ingram just replaces Kawhi as the volume scorer.

The weird fit here is Mathurin, IMO. Garland—Wagler—Ingram … where does he slot in. Perhaps Keaton comes off the bench.

Clippers, as a team, have huge holes in the frontcourt.
 
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Very funny to me how Flemings and Wagler both ended up on their respective teams due to hysterically bad trades.

They both have the opportunity to make the trade look even worse, for New Orleans and Indiana.

…..

The Zubac trade is legitimately the worst I’ve seen since the Luka trade (perhaps even worse if you go with the direct logic that trading Luka got them Flagg).

The details are bonkers: they traded a top 4 protected pick, which landed at No. 5, and ended up being Wagler. Alongside, they also traded:

2029 unprotected first
Mathurin (who was a 17ppg scorer)
Isaiah Jackson

That’s an insane package for Zubac. Their GM came out apologizing to their fans, saying they really needed a “starting center.”

Then why not just draft Mara or Steinbach? Perhaps after a trade down if necessary? Perhaps Boozer or Wilson could also play the 5, who knows.

But this is absurd. If Wagler saves the Clippers — then they got stumped by OKC on a bad deal of their own, but get out of it with an equally bad deal (or perhaps worse) by IND.
Clippers got more Zubac than they did for Kawhi, one could reasonably argue, depending on how good Wagler is. (and I think they got quite a bit for Kawhi)
 
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Clippers got more Zubac than they did for Kawhi, one could reasonably argue. (and I think they got quite a bit for Kawhi)
But that's probably appropriate?

I mean Zubac isn't a superstar, but he's a decent starting center when healthy and what the Pacer's acquired is 2 years of him on a very team-friendly deal. (The Pacers were honestly taking a huge gamble liking their odds to land a top-4 pick and it backfired - you can kind of see the thinking, imagine if the lottery goes their way and they land Dybantsa, Peterson or Boozer - suddenly with a healthy Haliburton that team looks dangerous).

What the Raptors acquired is an indisputably better player, but for just one year at a huge cap hit. Apparently they're going to extend him, which given his age is a bit of a risk. Clippers didn't want to take that risk, Raptors do. Alternative was probably riding out the season and letting him walk in free agency, so Clippers didn't have as much negotiation leverage here as they did with the Zubac trade.
 
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