Illini Rivalries

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How long until Cignetti jumps to a new job? Does he do it after this year? I don't know if USC or Arkansas or some other rumored openings after this year would appeal to him or not.
I really don't know. I do think Indiana is doing everything they can to get it right. They are giving him what he needs, far more than I expected. He's got a huge haul to work with for his staff. A fan base where expectations aren't much.

He may/may not care about that? But he has won everywhere.

His top 4 players - 1st-team B1Gs - Ponds, Fisher, Kamara and 3rd-team Sarratt all came from JMU. You don't hit on that many players by luck. He's done well in the portal. He may never with the B1G but IU is capable of beating anyone.
 
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This topic is brought up a lot, but we are closing in on Week One ... so let's get one more offseason thread in! I also feel like this answer changes for Illini Football fans as time goes by and conditions change, so let's see where we collectively stand in August 2025. People can answer however they wish, but I'll provide three categories that I'm going to use:

Hate Rankings: The college football teams you personally hate the most.
Current Rivalry Rankings: Your "semi-objective" ranking of our current rivalries. These don't have to necessarily be reciprocal from the other fan base, but they're meant to be a bit more objective than the hate rankings.
Long-Term Rivalry Forecast: The rivalries you think have the most potential over the next decade plus if Bret and Co. can keep Illini Football winning.

Here are the FOTN choices.

HATE RANKINGS ... I'm realizing my hate runs much stronger on the basketball side of things, which is to be expected given our history, I guess.

Notre Dame ... I probably don't need to explain, but Chicago Area people (who don't have an obvious/alum team to support) who bandwagon Notre Dame instead of their state flagship Illini are the worst. Don't care if you're Catholic or Irish, you're still simping for a team in INDIANA instead of one from your home state. I really don't think I would bandwagon an out-of-state German Lutheran school instead of my state team just because of my heritage.
Michigan ... In my formative years, Michigan was a lot more like current Tennessee to me than the "Michigan" most fans think of. Good, competitive, storied history, sure ... but a clear notch below the elite team(s) in their conference. However, now that they've returned to competing for National Championships, I have gotten to see their arrogance at full potential, and it's nauseating. People can call OSU fans arrogant, but it's a much more "boarish" or salt-of-the-earth excessive pride than the nasty, condescending arrogance from Michigan fans.
Missouri ... Put me in the camp that hates all things Mizzou, no matter what. I can honestly say that they are one of my teams' rivals that I have the most overall disdain for. Sure, I hate the Cardinals, but I also genuinely enjoy when they are good at the same time as the Cubs, and I obviously respect the history. I hate the Packers, but it's hard not to love Lambeau and appreciate the community orientation of that organization. I hate Indiana basketball QUITE a bit, but I respect that they at least have a (very ancient, lol) good tradition. Mizzou? I have nothing but contempt for them and their fans.
Ohio State ... As stated above, I now hate them less than Michigan ... but it's pretty easy to hate the Buckeyes, and I probably don't need to explain why.


CURRENT RIVALRY RANKINGS ... As stated above, I am trying to be "objective" or "fair" or whatever here.

Northwestern ... Sucks to admit, but we are 3-5 years of continued, sustained success away from creating other rivalries with our conference foes to solidify other, better rivalries.
Purdue ... I really have never been on the Purdue hate bandwagon (in fact, growing up I didn't mind Purdue as a perceived ally in absolutely hating Indiana), but them shattering our 2022 Big Ten West dreams (saw that travesty in person...) and the Walters drama really solidified my distaste for them. Add in a trophy game, and this one has to be here.
Missouri ... Hey, at least they are on the schedule for sure for multiple years in a row. I get some fans think this is a regional thing only important to Metro East or Southern Illinois fans, but I disagree. I was born in Peoria, grew up in Iowa City and live in Chicago ... and I get hyped for the Mizzou rivalry in any sport, especially Braggin' Rights. 🤷‍♂️

LONG-TERM RIVALRY FORECAST ... I want to preface this by saying I'm trying to rank these on theoretical potential and not take scheduling limitations into account. For example, we don't know how long playing Mizzou OOC is feasible, and Big Ten schedules might limit how often we get to play Iowa.

Iowa ... Again, provided we actually got to play, this one would be bursting with potential. Our last couple games with them under Bret have been great, and the Bret connection plus natural carried-over animosity from basketball really help the intensity.

Missouri ... I think Mizzou is an incredibly natural rivalry, and with enough time we could have something approaching Braggin' Rights (though it's a shame there isn't an outdoor football stadium option in St. Louis to replicate that 50/50 crowd setup).
Northwestern ... I think this will develop into a Tennessee/Vanderbilt or Georgia/Georgia Tech dynamic for us if we keep winning. Always on the schedule for the last weekend, a game you definitely want to win (or at least not lose) but also one that takes a backseat to other rivalries.
Wisconsin ... This is my wild card pick, but I'll throw out the prediction that Wisconsin gets a solid replacement for Fickell and rebounds a bit, Minnesota (the Badgers' main rival) gets a dud replacement for PJ and eventually regresses and Illinois/Wisconsin develops into a pretty good rivalry. You have the Bielema connection, the proximity, the Bears/Packers carryover, etc.

BONUS - Teams I "Should" Theoretically Hate But Don't Mind At All

Texas A&M
... Don't get me wrong, I find their cult fans weird/annoying, and the whole literally buying an elite program with donor money thing is objectively bad for the sport, IMO. However, I also always have a soft spot for big state schools that seem to have a ton going for them and yet have never achieved the success their fans want, lol. I don't like them at all, but I don't hate them as much as your average fan.
Florida - Maybe it's the orange and blue or the uniqueness of the Swamp, but I have always kind of liked Florida. If anyone is going to be elite out of the SEC, I'll take Florida over Alabama or Tennessee any day.
LSU - Of all of the annoying SEC teams, I can't really say why, but ... I just don't hate LSU. Even with Brian Kelly being super annoying, there is something just nostalgic and likable to me about LSU, from them constantly fighting to get the same recognition/respect/status as the Alabama tier of the conference historically to the white jerseys at home to the atmosphere of Death Valley.
For me, college football is a bit different than college basketball as in basketball I do have respect for a lot of our B10 compatriots who could be theoretically hated opponents. But in football I have little to no respect for almost all Power 5 teams. They're pretty much all dirty sore losers who then whine incessantly because other teams are cheating more (read better) than they are, or how despite their 5-6 record they would be undefeated in any other conference. That said, there are a couple schools that have always stood out to me:

1. Michigan- Eff those whores. Sore winners, even sorer losers whose cheating and foul play have almost no bounds, then hide behind that pretentious Michigan Man prestige garbage while sobbing and crying when they lose even with the refs in their pocket. Screw them.

2. USC- The Michigan Men of the Pac 10. Absolutely pretentious POS's that thankfully in recent years have not been the dominant force they've been historically. God forbid that happens and we have to deal with prime USC and their fanbase on an annual basis.

Teams I tolerate though I shouldn't:
OSU, Notre Dame- They're usually the only real hope to beat Michigan and ruin their season.
Northwestern- Grew up in that area. Liked seeing them have success. Never have actually viewed them as a rival though I guess I probably should.

Teams I will cheer for other than Illinois:
Any non-power 5- This is a hill I will die on for football, but any undefeated midmajor team that beat a major conference team deserves to be a Top 4 playoff team ahead of all 1 and 2 loss Power 5 teams. Also any 1 loss midmajor deserves into the 12 team playoff over a 3 loss power 5 team. They earned it and the numbers back up they belong there

Our rivals:
Maybe Northwestern but not really. I don't think we have a football rival.

Potential rivals if we get and stay good:
1. Mizzou- It's the one that makes the most sense, but only if we go from a 0% winning percentage against them to 50% and get some tight games
2. Whoever in the B10 we can play regularly in tight tough games. I'm not sure anyone qualifies in the current alignment, but it would be fun competing to play in B10 title games year in and year out. Prior to expansion I'd argue Iowa or Wisconsin would be most attainable for something like that, but now? Not sure if it's possible, but if it's us knocking Michigan down a rung, every other year I'm on board
 
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Yeah I think Indiana is a close game this fall away from igniting something here. I mean we all of the sudden haaaaate South Carolina folk and that was a “meaningless bowl game.” This matters. If it’s close and Cignetti hangs around I think we’ve got something brewing.
 
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Yeah I think Indiana is a close game this fall away from igniting something here. I mean we all of the sudden haaaaate South Carolina folk and that was a “meaningless bowl game.” This matters. If it’s close and Cignetti hangs around I think we’ve got something brewing.
How about we blow them out, Bielema taunts Cignetti and he complains in the post game press conference while Bret just smirks when asked about it.
 
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