Illini Women's Basketball 2023

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Also, my counter to that would be Shauna has stated in interviews recently she never really expected to be back in the midwest. She went to Canisius College because she wanted to get out of Iowa. She said her and her husband's favorite place they've lived in is Providence. If anything, she misses the east coast and loves the New England area. So yeah, she doesn't necessarily sound like someone that needs to go back to Iowa as long as we provide the proper environment for her to succeed. Luckily, we have JW, which I think helps a lot in that regard.
It comes up at the 20:33 mark.
You never know. Keep in mind though that Megdal is an east coast guy with an east coast audience.
 
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About the other posts and Illinois making the tourney....currently sitting 17-5 and 7-4 in conference

We can go 3-4 the rest of the way and we are getting into the tournament. Going 20-9 and 10-8 in Big Ten gets us in even if against lower tier teams. Hope that doesn't happen at all and we just win them all ;)
 
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The Galloping Ghost

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About the other posts and Illinois making the tourney....currently sitting 17-5 and 7-4 in conference

We can go 3-4 the rest of the way and we are getting into the tournament. Going 20-9 and 10-8 in Big Ten gets us in even if against lower tier teams. Hope that doesn't happen at all and we just win them all ;)
I mean, just like the men's tournament, it's not simply about counting. It's about who you beat. We are 35 in the Net with only 1 good win and are currently thought to be on the 9 line. If we don't get another quad 1 win and our Net drops into the 40s we are going to be right on the bubble. Note, our Net dropped 7 places in a week. Win one of those three quad 1 games and we have the backstop of two solid wins. Without it, hold on to your butts. Just look at Purdue who just beat us. Purdue is currently one of the last 4 in and in the play-in game at 15-6 and 6-5 in the conference.
 
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Was thinking the same thing I wonder about Connecticut. I don’t know if he has a coaching tree to be the heir apparent.
The strongest candidate in Geno's coaching tree is Carla Berube. Possibly Shea Ralph but she has just one year as head coach at Vandy and has a ways to go before proving herself.

I doubt if Geno is still coaching that long.
 
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I mean, just like the men's tournament, it's not simply about counting. It's about who you beat. We are 35 in the Net with only 1 good win and are currently thought to be on the 9 line. If we don't get another quad 1 win and our Net drops into the 40s we are going to be right on the bubble. Note, our Net dropped 7 places in a week. Win one of those three quad 1 games and we have the backstop of two solid wins. Without it, hold on to your butts.
It actually can go by how many you beat even if they don't have many quality wins. If Illinois goes 4-3, the committee are not leaving out a 11-7 conference record and 21-8 record overall. Not saying that is ideal but it could happen if we even would lose to Michigan, Maryland and Nebraska.

The Michigan vs Illinois game is huge. Whoever loses that is 2 full games back of the top 4 teams. Not a death blow for a double bye but would be hard climbing up unless someone falls off the mountain in those first few slots. We have the win over Iowa with Michigan/Maryland left for a potential seeding knockout if tied.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

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It actually can go by how many you beat even if they don't have many quality wins. If Illinois goes 4-3, the committee are not leaving out a 11-7 conference record and 21-8 record overall. Not saying that is ideal but it could happen if we even would lose to Michigan, Maryland and Nebraska.

The Michigan vs Illinois game is huge. Whoever loses that is 2 full games back of the top 4 teams. Not a death blow for a double bye but would be hard climbing up unless someone falls off the mountain in those first few slots. We have the win over Iowa with Michigan/Maryland left for a potential seeding knockout if tied.
Villanova was an 11 seed and one of the last teams in the tournament last year at 24-9 and 15-4 in the Big East (2nd overall). We talk constantly in the men's bracketology thread about the importance of quad 1 and 2 wins. It's the exact same thing in the women's tournament. Nothing changes just because they are women. Loading up on wins against quad 3-4 teams isn't going to get it done. And here's the thing, unlike the men's B1G where only 1 team is outside the top 100 in the Net, in the women's B1G, there are 4 teams outside the top 100 and they account for 5 of our current 7 wins.
 
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Villanova was an 11 seed and one of the last teams in the tournament last year at 24-9 and 15-4 in the Big East (2nd overall). We talk constantly in the men's bracketology thread about the importance of quad 1 and 2 wins. It's the exact same thing in the women's tournament. Nothing changes just because they are women.
It also goes by the strength of the conference. The Big East was weak last season if you go from top to bottom and those top few teams weren't given much credit for those wins over a team like Butler who went 0-18 in conference and 1-27 overall :ROFLMAO: Last year the 7th best team in the Big East finished 7 games under .500 overall out of 11 teams. This year you have Butler 2-11 in conference and Xavier 0-12 so far.

Nebraska was a 8 seed last season and went 11-7 in conference and 3-5 vs top 25. The problem with Illinois this year is we got to face Ohio St and Indiana twice, only face Iowa, Michigan and Maryland once. That means if you don't have the opportunity to face more of the big dogs twice than you have to win against the lower tier opponents. So far they have done that. If Illinois goes 11-7 in conference they are in....factoring in majority of loses are 2-3 possession game at most so far is impressive if that holds.
 
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It also goes by the strength of the conference. The Big East was weak last season if you go from top to bottom and those top few teams weren't given much credit for those wins over a team like Butler who went 0-18 in conference and 1-27 overall :ROFLMAO: Last year the 7th best team in the Big East finished 7 games under .500 overall out of 11 teams. This year you have Butler 2-11 in conference and Xavier 0-12 so far.

Nebraska was a 8 seed last season and went 11-7 in conference and 3-5 vs top 25. The problem with Illinois this year is we got to face Ohio St and Indiana twice, only face Iowa, Michigan and Maryland once. That means if you don't have the opportunity to face more of the big dogs twice than you have to win against the lower tier opponents. So far they have done that. If Illinois goes 11-7 in conference they are in....factoring in majority of loses are 2-3 possession game at most so far is impressive if that holds.
It's not about the strength of the conference it's about where the teams you beat rank in the Net. Though, yes, I used a team from a major conference as an example for a purpose. In the women's B1G, there are 4 teams outside the top 100 and they account for 5 of our current 7 wins. We have loaded up on bad wins thus far, exactly like Villanova did last year, which is why I used them as the example. We currently have one quad 1 win (Iowa #9) and one quad 2 win (Michigan State #43). Without another quad 1 win, our resume doesn't come close to comparing to Nebraska last year, despite a similar record. Not all 11-7s in the B1G are created equal. That's exactly the point.

Edit: Also, it's neat to be having this conversation about our women's team!
 
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It's not about the strength of the conference it's about where the teams you beat rank in the Net. Again, in the women's B1G, there are 4 teams outside the top 100 and they account for 5 of our current 7 wins. We have loaded up on bad wins thus far. Exactly like Villanova did last year, which is why I used them as an example. We currently have one quad 1 win (Iowa #9) and one quad 2 win (Michigan State #43). Without another quad 1 win, our resume doesn't come close to comparing to Nebraska last year, despite a similar record. Not all 11-7s in the B1G are created equal. That's exactly the point.

Edit: Also, it's neat to be having this conversation about our women's team!
Yeah man I have fun chatting about this respectably ;)

There are always exceptions to the rules...there have been some off the wall committees and selections


Syracuase men 5-6 years ago went 23-14. That part looks fine...

They also went 8-10 in conference and 1-6 against top 25 during the season. They got that top 25 win the last regular season game of the season vs Clemson. They got into the tourney based on a strong conference schedule only. Crazy part is they won play in game and lost in the Sweet 16.

(I agree all 11-7 records are not equal. It will also hold more weight than a 12-13 win Big East schedule this season. If our losses were blowouts I get it, but if some reason all but 1-2 losses are close games that will be factored in)
 
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The Galloping Ghost

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Fun little article I remember reading when it came out. Not sure if there is anything more updated but Shauna Green is paid very well even overachieving this season.

I would expect nothing less from JW.
 
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