Illini Women's Basketball

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Pac-12 was a better conference than Big 10 last season. They will be fine with style of play. Our ladies aren't a physical team but run and gun for example. I am intrigued to see how the schedules setup for road games and going coast to coast.



Stanford had 3 conference losses, USC and UCLA 5. Anyone can be beaten but USC sure looks super tough. Clark carried Iowa and had some supporting cast. Watkins has a better supporting cast next season. I don't see a huge difference after the first few teams. Nebraska, Maryland, Michigan, Ohio St, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan St(can throw in few more teams)in the top 15-40 range.
Just looking at the teams you have grouped with us, four of them are home games. We are going to need to take care of business at home. If we do we should be sitting pretty good. Another productive recruit would sure help.
 
#202      
We got some size Tenin is 6'6" and depth at G in portal. Not overwhelming but both will make us a better team next year. I think improvement will hinge on whether Dolan makes sophomore jump to 12 ppg and if All American Berry Wallace can be a day 1 starter and get us 12 ppg 8 rbg inside. Bostic is a dog on the boards but is not big enough/athletic enough to score inside against elite B10 centers.
I will give us a portal grade of C+/B- so far. I think we will be a solid Big10 team as they have been the last couple of years unless something big happens in the next couple of weeks. Since the portal was not great I think it is up to Green to shake up the team with some different line-ups and better offensive sets. Some may not like this but playing Cook/Bryant together is another year of just being OK. Depending on how they play, trying one of them as first off the bench and starting either Dolan or Berry seems like something to consider.
 
#203      

ptgrd23

orange county CA
I agree. Our offense often consists of Genesis or Makira going hero ball / 1 on 5. Unfortunately we have not had the talent so we were forced into it.

Hopefully with talent upgrade and more size we can pass more to create easier shots for everybody.
 
#204      
Schedule seems to me to be favorable. 3 toughest teams are on the road USC,UCLA,OSU. If you’re gonna lose it’s better to lose on the road. We could sweep at home. Neb, Iowa probably 2 toughest. How about 12-6.
How bout we beat UCLA or Ohio State and and come out 13-5 and 3-4 seed for adeptly handling a tough B1G schedule…This year is our springboard to becoming upper echelons mainstay
 
#205      
I don’t feel like this is an exaggeration.We are a senior laden team with a two year 20win average and postseason title..I think these seniors wanna go out with a bang..Maybe even a parade???Lol..oh man my orange koolaid cup is full today ..lol
 
#206      
I will give us a portal grade of C+/B- so far. I think we will be a solid Big10 team as they have been the last couple of years unless something big happens in the next couple of weeks. Since the portal was not great I think it is up to Green to shake up the team with some different line-ups and better offensive sets. Some may not like this but playing Cook/Bryant together is another year of just being OK. Depending on how they play, trying one of them as first off the bench and starting either Dolan or Berry seems like something to consider.
I would say last year because of an early injury to Cook,an unsettled adjustment with our 4and 5 caused the shooting and defense to be kinda disjointed..Im glad we got size and most of the women have pedigree.Two of the women coming in have some extended familiarity with Coach Green(Wallace and Tenin)and the other two are Chicago gals..I think the continuity will be better early even if we take an early injury..This team thrives on going to the paint against bigger teams,He k the shortest on on the team is the ONLY ONE with a triple double (but for some reason I think we may get one out of Adailia..lol)
 
#207      
I don’t feel like this is an exaggeration.We are a senior laden team with a two year 20win average and postseason title..I think these seniors wanna go out with a bang..Maybe even a parade???Lol..oh man my orange koolaid cup is full today ..lol
At least you are excited even if not realistic lol
 
#208      

Fan Since '70

OBS, Florida
I will give us a portal grade of C+/B- so far. I think we will be a solid Big10 team as they have been the last couple of years unless something big happens in the next couple of weeks. Since the portal was not great I think it is up to Green to shake up the team with some different line-ups and better offensive sets. Some may not like this but playing Cook/Bryant together is another year of just being OK. Depending on how they play, trying one of them as first off the bench and starting either Dolan or Berry seems like something to consider.
I was hoping for more gains from the transfer portal, preferably an elite center that can score and be a rim protector and also a big guard/wing capable of scoring on multiple levels and athletic enough of guarding opponents big guards/wings. Neither has been acquired in the portal. Yes, Illinois acquired a mid talented center but not the elite one needed to contend for a B1G championship. Illini also needed a bigger elite guard/wing to be another go to scorer and primary defender. Illini, IMO without those kind and caliber of players, Illini did not improve their roster as much as, or to truly compete with teams like USC, OSU, Maryland and Iowa (possibly Michigan State too). Those other teams really added elite talent to add to elite talent already there. Illini can be in top 3rd of new Big Ten standings but are not championship contenders, IMO. To improve on last 2 years, with current players on hand, Illini big guard/wings Dolan, Wallace, Allen and Brown-Hager will have to shine and get meaningful minutes when playing teams with more talented and positional size. Magassa will have to be the paint defender and scorer Illini have sorely needed and Hobby tried to provide but fell short. Hayven Smith will back up Magassa in likely limited minutes. Bollin and/or Shoup-Hill also have to take dramatic leap up. Then if Bostic, Cook, Bryant and McKenzie crank it up and provide high level and consistent play, Illini can be maybe finish as 4-6th best team in conference and make NCAA tournament.
 
#209      
I was hoping for more gains from the transfer portal, preferably an elite center that can score and be a rim protector and also a big guard/wing capable of scoring on multiple levels and athletic enough of guarding opponents big guards/wings. Neither has been acquired in the portal. Yes, Illinois acquired a mid talented center but not the elite one needed to contend for a B1G championship. Illini also needed a bigger elite guard/wing to be another go to scorer and primary defender. Illini, IMO without those kind and caliber of players, Illini did not improve their roster as much as, or to truly compete with teams like USC, OSU, Maryland and Iowa (possibly Michigan State too). Those other teams really added elite talent to add to elite talent already there. Illini can be in top 3rd of new Big Ten standings but are not championship contenders, IMO. To improve on last 2 years, with current players on hand, Illini big guard/wings Dolan, Wallace, Allen and Brown-Hager will have to shine and get meaningful minutes when playing teams with more talented and positional size. Magassa will have to be the paint defender and scorer Illini have sorely needed and Hobby tried to provide but fell short. Hayven Smith will back up Magassa in likely limited minutes. Bollin and/or Shoup-Hill also have to take dramatic leap up. Then if Bostic, Cook, Bryant and McKenzie crank it up and provide high level and consistent play, Illini can be maybe finish as 4-6th best team in conference and make NCAA tournament.
Excellent assessment. I would be happy with 6th and elated with 4th. Still hoping for a difference maker from the portal. Coach McEntire said we weren’t done. I was expecting to hear something by now. Maybe a Serbian or someone from Real Madrid!!!!
 
#210      

Fan Since '70

OBS, Florida
Excellent assessment. I would be happy with 6th and elated with 4th. Still hoping for a difference maker from the portal. Coach McEntire said we weren’t done. I was expecting to hear something by now. Maybe a Serbian or someone from Real Madrid!!!!
I don't know why Illinois women haven't made a big splash in the portal. Hope it is not because women side doesn't have a lot of NIL $$ to spend. Seems they did not even attempt to get an elite center and elite wing which they sorely needed to become serious contenders. Hope they still land an alpha elite or two.
 
#211      

ptgrd23

orange county CA
Don't think Illini WBB has much NIL$. Not sure most WBB program has major NIL. Look at teams who are pulling the best portal players.
top 5 ranked USC, OK, KY, UCLA, UCLA, TX, Baylor, Uconn, USC

 
#212      
I don't know why Illinois women haven't made a big splash in the portal. Hope it is not because women side doesn't have a lot of NIL $$ to spend. Seems they did not even attempt to get an elite center and elite wing which they sorely needed to become serious contenders. Hope they still land an alpha elite or two.
They have 4 starters returning for their senior year, it is highly unlikely that they are going to get an elite wing. I could see them going for another center, but it would probably be someone younger that they see a future with.
 
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#213      

Fan Since '70

OBS, Florida
They have 4 starters returning for their senior year, it is highly unlikely that they are going to get an elite wing. I could see them going for another center, but it would probably be someone younger that they see a future with.
The 4 starters aren't championship contenders, not even with the center they added. Illini needed to make a splash at center position and add an elite athletic wing scorer and defender type to increase their competitiveness over the last two seasons and be more realistic contenders. Plus give the younger talent, Dolan, Wallace and Allen more minutes, especially when starters aren't getting it done. IMO, Illini right now are at best 4th-6th best in new B1G '18' and then only if they hit on all cylinders consistently throughout the season and Green lets the best producing players play.
 
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ptgrd23

orange county CA
We stunk 3 years ago. Now we want to contend for BT title and make NCAA every year.
 
#217      

Fan Since '70

OBS, Florida
How quickly our perspective has changed. Three years ago we would have been over the moon with our transfers and freshman recruits.
Three years ago, Illini were 7-20 overall and 1-13 in B1G and had been an afterthought for a long time . If Whitman and Greene are to be believed, Illini want to play with the best. But to do that you have to recruit elite players and in this era, spend the big bucks to acquire missing pieces to contend for championships.
 
#218      
They have 4 starters returning for their senior year, it is highly unlikely that they are going to get an elite wing. I could see them going for another center, but it would probably be someone younger that they see a future with.
It seemed like a perfect fit for Janae Kent and Alyssa Latham to come back home state to get glory and a NIL bag,but something about coming homeseems like it dont work for our flagship school..
 
#219      

ptgrd23

orange county CA
Its one thing to return home to a Big Ten champion team (TSJ) or an BTT champ elite eight team (Tre White, Kylan Boswell). We have been a very successsful MBB program since 2020.

The WBB program was very bad for 15 years. Finally barely getting to post season for past 2 years average 3,700 attendance.

Janae Kent left LSU SEC to go to Texas A&M. SEC National Champions 2011. Made NCAA tourney 14 years in a row between 2006 and 2021 including two elite 8's. Attendance 3,900.

Alysa Latham left Syracuse ACC to go to Tennessee. SEC 8 national championships. Averaged 8.9k attendance last year.

It is hard sell to get a blue chip recruit or transfer to come to Illinois. Shauna needs her Ayo / Kofi to raise the program to next level. Lou did not break thru till he got Eddie Johnson.
 
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I don't know why Illinois women haven't made a big splash in the portal. Hope it is not because women side doesn't have a lot of NIL $$ to spend.
Do they have a bunch of $ to spend? No

They also have a ton of minutes that are locked up


Seems they did not even attempt to get an elite center and elite wing which they sorely needed to become serious contenders.
References for this take? I know just an opinion

Every legit contender is looking for an elite center besides just elite talent.

Serious contenders for conference? Win it all? There are maybe 4-6 teams each season that have any shot of winning the National Championship. UConn hasn't won it since 2016 and they are a top notch program. We are trying to make some noise and make the NCAA Tournament every season. Baby steps....not making the Final Four next season
 
#222      
How quickly our perspective has changed. Three years ago we would have been over the moon with our transfers and freshman recruits.
The realistic fans still feel this way

The Illinois fans who didn't follow Women's basketball or very casually are the most critical.....go figure

There are a few "hot take" posters on here I don't take seriously
 
#223      

Champaign Toast

Fan since Kiwane Garris
A player who doesn't get talked about much is Cori Allen. I was encouraged by how she played last season when she got onto the court. At a pretty good rate (to my eye), she would be in the right spot to make a defensive play or grab a rebound. She used her strength and had a nice looking three point shot. Had good poise. Didn't she hit a tough mid-range shot at one point? She may not be the quickest of players. I can't recall how well she defended on the perimeter.

I look forward to seeing more of her next year.
 
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A player who doesn't get talked about much is Cori Allen. I was encouraged by how she played last season when she got onto the court. At a pretty good rate (to my eye), she would be in the right spot to make a defensive play or grab a rebound. She used her strength and had a nice looking three point shot. Didn't she hit a tough mid-range shot at one point? She may not be the quickest of players. I can't recall how well she defended on the perimeter.

I look forward to seeing more of her next year.
Top 100 recruit who mainly saw action during junk time. Hopefully the game can slow down for her and she can contribute during competitive games next season. She mainly played during double digit leads whether winning/losing. I don't see her being top few off the bench unless major injuries happen.
 
#225      
A player who doesn't get talked about much is Cori Allen. I was encouraged by how she played last season when she got onto the court. At a pretty good rate (to my eye), she would be in the right spot to make a defensive play or grab a rebound. She used her strength and had a nice looking three point shot. Had good poise. Didn't she hit a tough mid-range shot at one point? She may not be the quickest of players. I can't recall how well she defended on the perimeter.

I look forward to seeing more of her next year.
I agree. I like her court savvy. But I don’t see her everyday in practice like the coaches do. Maybe she’ll find her way into the rotation this year. We’re gonna need her the following year.
 
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