Illinois 34, USC 32 Postgame

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Now this part I agree with. Against Indiana, it was far far far more blatant and completely obvious illegal man downfield and not called. Refs easily could've swallowed their whistle and nobody would be the wiser.

If you want my actual non pithy explanation for what might have happened this game was make-up call syndrome. Refs let the Feagin fumble play out and didn't overturn it knowing full well it was garbage and cost 7pts. So they dial a TD back for USC. Even steven though not really.

As for the spot on the final play being 3yds off, that was a straight up job, there's no other rational explanation. The "mistakes happen, sometimes refs just accidentally make bad calls" argument holds about as much water as saying Michigan never gets beneficial calls. It was purposefully misspotted to make the kick much harder. That's all it was.
So you are saying that the BIG 10 has an agenda that they are trying to push and are using the referees as a tool to get what they want accomplished? By the way I'm not saying I disagree with you....
 
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So you are saying that the BIG 10 has an agenda that they are trying to push and are using the referees as a tool to get what they want accomplished? By the way I'm not saying I disagree with you....
I'm saying there's a lot of money riding on games and water is wet. I think at this point it's far more likely that decisions including those made by refs can be influenced than they can't. And if something looks out of the ordinary strange that isn't explicable by reasonable benefitof the doubt, well, there are other rationale explanations that can make sense. Plus it's not like refs or even conferences haven't been implicated before...
 
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I’m probably in the minority, but I still say he made the right call. It just didn’t work out in our favor.
IMO, I think it’s situational and more-so the team. For the general Iowa team for example, I do not think it would be the right move. But when you have a QB like we do, and the secondary is struggling the way it was… you want the outcome in the hands of your quarterback.
 
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I'm saying there's a lot of money riding on games and water is wet. I think at this point it's far more likely that decisions including those made by refs can be influenced than they can't. And if something looks out of the ordinary strange that isn't explicable by reasonable benefitof the doubt, well, there are other rationale explanations that can make sense. Plus it's not like refs or even conferences haven't been implicated before...
That's certainly a take. An interesting take at that.
 
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IMO, I think it’s situational and more-so the team. For the general Iowa team for example, I do not think it would be the right move. But when you have a QB like we do, and the secondary is struggling the way it was… you want the outcome in the hands of your quarterback.
Generally speaking, I would rarely say “let them score.” Yesterday, for example, I was really hoping we’d simply stop USC from scoring. But they did score and they left us plenty of time to go down field and get a score ourselves, so it all worked out in the end.

In the 1996 Minnesota game, Illinois was nursing a 21-17 lead, but the Gophers had the ball on the half inch line with under a minute to play. The odds of stopping them were long, so Tepper made, in my opinion, the right call in letting them score and leaving us 46 seconds to work with. The Gophers even made our job easier, missing the extra point so all we needed was a field goal to win instead of a TD. Alas, the strategy was not successful.
 
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Generally speaking, I would rarely say “let them score.” Yesterday, for example, I was really hoping we’d simply stop USC from scoring. But they did score and they left us plenty of time to go down field and get a score ourselves, so it all worked out in the end.
You can hope for it, but winning the game is the one and only goal here. In that exact situation, considering our secondary, their weapons... I (and any intellectual person) will take USC to punch it in 10/10 times. On the other hand, I'm also taking Luke, with with a two minute clock, to be able to manufacture a drive and get you at least a FG 10/10 times.

Work smarter, not harder. Fairly simple.
 
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That's certainly a take. An interesting take at that.
Adding to my comment...

Yesterday's crew was headed by referee Kole Knueppel, who was the referee for the B1G championship game last year. He also served as an alternate for the CFP game between ASU and Texas. He's in his 8th year as a B1G ref and moved up the ranks from HS, to D3, to FCS to B1G. Illinois is 3-1 in games he's been a head referee during the BB era.

I'd love to see the B1G go to the new ACC model of replay booth, where we get a true look-in on the replay process and discussion. That would go a long way, I think, to getting rid of the noise along the lines of "other rational explanations" being perceived to be present in the officiating process.
 
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And far be it for me to defend these officials, but they caught this “minor” penalty and it literally changed the game.

Same could be said for the tip toe sideline Feagin run, and the toe in catch on the sideline.

HUGE plays that they got right (as they should) and were absolutely necessary for this W.
Officials are also taught on potential out of bounds calls, if in doubt let the play continue.

Instant replay can always step in and change a touchdown to out of bounds. But by rule, instant replay cannot un blow a whistle and change out of bounds into a touchdown.
 
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Watched the full Fox CFB highlights:

•He will probably get razzed about it in film, but my man Dixon gotta get into the end zone on that 4th quarter catch! No more looking back, just gotta burn em!

•Am I crazy or was that absolutely terrible spotting on the Feagin run to set up the Olano kick? Should have been first down?
 
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Watched the full Fox CFB highlights:

•He will probably get razzed about it in film, but my man Dixon gotta get into the end zone on that 4th quarter catch! No more looking back, just gotta burn em!

•Am I crazy or was that absolutely terrible spotting on the Feagin run to set up the Olano kick? Should have been first down?
He was a full yard plus past the first down marker. Bad spot.
 
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Absolutely. Bert would never have given the ball back to USC with almost 2 minutes. These little meticulous details are why we win close games. First down we would have run the ball and got the clock running. Every time.
Whatever, however way it happened.... we needed the ball back with at least 45-60 sec IMO. As long as that happened... all you need is a field goal... history has shown odds are in our favor.
 
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We’re up 11 spots in SP+ after the win. From 36 to 25.

USC now has the #1 offense the nation in both SP+ and KFord and our offense outplayed them.
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Generally speaking, I would rarely say “let them score.” Yesterday, for example, I was really hoping we’d simply stop USC from scoring. But they did score and they left us plenty of time to go down field and get a score ourselves, so it all worked out in the end.

In the 1996 Minnesota game, Illinois was nursing a 21-17 lead, but the Gophers had the ball on the half inch line with under a minute to play. The odds of stopping them were long, so Tepper made, in my opinion, the right call in letting them score and leaving us 46 seconds to work with. The Gophers even made our job easier, missing the extra point so all we needed was a field goal to win instead of a TD. Alas, the strategy was not successful.
All situational. Luke Altmeyer and the offense weren't getting stopped by anyone but themselves Saturday.

Even if we had to score a touchdown to win Saturday I think we could of. I'd rather have the ball last with some time than suffer defeat on defense as the clock runs out and there is nothing you can do about it.
 
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And yet another example of being just so Illinois!

This is actually a sign we are in the end times of “being Illinois”.

5 years ago that doesn’t get noticed and the kick hits the left upright, hits the right upright, pops straight up, falls onto the crossbar, bounces back onto our sideline, bursts open and delivers mono virus to the entire team.
 
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