Illinois 37, Michigan State 34 POSTGAME

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Ander1345
I'm still so confused as to the coverage on the 4th and 16 conversion.

I just don't get it from MSU's perspective.
 
#352      
louisvilleillini
After they showed what Milo did to get him kicked out of the game I loved what Millen said in his commentary. You have to go back and hear what he said.
 
#353      
Ander1345
I got really worried when Milo bumped into Lovie as he was leaving the field. I wasn't sure if it was a accident or he was still losing his temper. Think it was an accident as he seems really sorry about the whole thing from the one tweet he made. Learn, grow, move on as a better person imo.
 
#354      
Twangers
Ander1345 said:
I'm still so confused as to the coverage on the 4th and 16 conversion.

I just don't get it from MSU's perspective.
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LOL, yeah, stop trying to figure it out. I wasted an hour of my life doing the same, there’s no logic to it.

I mean, he’s our only vertical threat. He’s been beating your press man all game long. In what world is single man high with a safety in the middle third a winning strategy against Josh on 4th and 16? It’s idiotic. Mike Tressel needs to answer for that because he cost his kids a chance to celebrate victory.
 
#355      
BWBW
Milo should have trash talked the guy into throwing a punch at him. I can think of a few things he could have said, but I can't post them. Most of you can probably think of much better things, so I will end this post.
 
#356      
SouthFLILLINI
Twangers said:
LOL, yeah, stop trying to figure it out. I wasted an hour of my life doing the same, there’s no logic to it.

I mean, he’s our only vertical threat. He’s been beating your press man all game long. In what world is single man high with a safety in the middle third a winning strategy against Josh on 4th and 16? It’s idiotic. Mike Tressel needs to answer for that because he cost his kids a chance to celebrate victory.
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Even the TV commentators saw it and were saying where the ball was going.
 
#361      
PtownIllini8
oldbutinterested said:
That was my biggest fear that the school up north would screw us out a bowl. NOT NOW pussycats. I Confess I NEVER thought we had a chance at the end of the third quarter. WE ARE BOWLING MAN!!!!
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When Bhebhe caught that 80+ yard TD to make it 31-17, I texted my brothers and said, hey, this game isn't over yet. What great fun and what a team. Love and staff have really instilled belief in these guys.
 
#363      
Twangers
Dude said:
Offensively I don't think Palcho had a very good game. Our best run blocking tandem is Green and Kramer in my opinion so I am not surprised nor will I blame them for trying to run to them. And I feel like we have been throwing to the outside all year, Peters has plenty of arm strength to do it. I am not defending the play calling but I am not going to say the whole game was awful either. The goal line calls at the end of the game were not ideal. No defending that. I would not put a shotgun QB under center. I believe Jay Leman made a very good point, why not wild cat with Dre Brown. I have only seen it one time and that was after Peters long run in the Rutgers game. I would like to see that utilized a little more on short yardage. This is Rod's second year in being a full time OC. First year with a running QB and now shifting to a pocket passer, I am not shocked he has had some issues here and there. I believe he will learn and get better
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The whole game was pretty awful when you break it down. That said, this is why football is the ultimate team sport in my eyes. Some days your QB will be on, some days he won't. Some days everything will flow in the running game, some days it'll be like running into a brick wall. Some days everything will click defensively, some days your guys just won't have it. Some days your playcaller will be in an unflappable rhythm, almost as if every call is the perfect design for that down and distance and some days it'll be as if they've never called a game before. Somehow you have to find a way to pull the entire team together enough as a group to overcome the bad days in order to achieve victory. It's an amazing game. Saturday, our coaches called an awful football game from top to bottom but it doesn't mean they're idiots who have called the entirety of the season in that manner. They just had a rough day and it was up to our kids to make it happen themselves. I'm proud to say they did.

To the bold portion, pure arm strength doesn't have much to do with the specific outside hash throws that Brandon has struggled with for the majority of the season. It's about the design of the throw and the way Brandon attempts to deliver it mechanically. Rod needs to get those out of his playbook. They're not working and they're dangerous.
 
#364      
PtownIllini8
Twangers said:
Lot of people complaining about that PI at the end of the game. It may have been a little iffy but as I said during the game, you have to understand situational football. If you make non-ball contact on a play in the end zone, more often than not a flag will come out and you as a defender much be cognizant of that. I understand it may be iffy but have no sympathy for anyone blaming the refs for that ending. You have to understand situational football.
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I don't think it's iffy at all. The DB grabbed Reams' shoulder pad before the ball got there. It would've been a travesty if they had not called it. For once we get a call....wow, fantastic!
 
#365      
Twangers
PtownIllini8 said:
I don't think it's iffy at all. The DB grabbed Reams' shoulder pad before the ball got there. It would've been a travesty if they had not called it. For once we get a call....wow, fantastic!
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I don't agree. The contact doesn't appear to influence the WRs ability to catch the football and there's essentially contact from both sides. That's a call that could in theory go either way. But this isn't a normal call. It's an end zone ball where the defender initiates non-ball contact. Those flags will get thrown in that situation, regardless of whether or not the interference is egregious.
 
#366      
PtownIllini8
Twangers said:
Shoot. Was hoping Shammond would get some run, I think he’s got a game or two before he burns the redshirt.

Tolson did not play well today. His understanding of our checks was clearly an issue, he did a lot of guessing.
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He was far from perfect but he had like 9 tackles, 0.5 for a loss and a fumble recovery, so not that bad.
 
#368      
PtownIllini8
SescIllini said:
#66 rubbed his sack on Milo that is why he punched him in his bung hole. MSU has players in the transfer portal, I would think long and hard about taking. MSU fb and bb culture is bad, wins above everything else.

So glad we have MEN running our programs. I was supporting Lovie during the 2-6 record for the main reason that he holds his players accountable and what he expects from the players.
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I don't think it was a punch, I think Milo was trying to push the guy off of him and the ref thought it was a punch.
 
#369      
Deleted member 645583
And if you still ain't gotten enough of this great win, Big 10 in 60 is showing it again at noon CST today.
 
#371      
Deleted member 645583
Love that shade of orange. Matte finish, I guess. That orange is delish. Small thing: numbers should be navy blue; get rid of navy blue collar. But I'm not really complaining

Have a great day, everybody.
 
#373      
SycIllini
I haven’t had a chance to sit and watch the whole game yet. Been watching in bits and pieces. Getting toward the end of the 3rd quarter and all I can say is it is not looking good for us. Not sure we have done anything productive the whole 3rd quarter. Defense has held I suppose.

Amazing. Can’t wait to get to the 4th!
 
#374      
breadman
SycIllini said:
I haven’t had a chance to sit and watch the whole game yet. Been watching in bits and pieces. Getting toward the end of the 3rd quarter and all I can say is it is not looking good for us. Not sure we have done anything productive the whole 3rd quarter. Defense has held I suppose.

Amazing. Can’t wait to get to the 4th!
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I'm just going to say that you will most likely not be disappointed. Enjoy!!
 
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