Illinois 81, Washington 77 Postgame

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Not sure if this was mentioned, because like......skipped a lot of pages.....

But did anyone notice the dramatic change in Ben's court presence? He seemed much more confident and active. This bodes very well for us because in spite of him being this years most... let's say controversial player... our ceiling has a lot to do with his level of contribution.
I thought he was a lot better on defense last night. Was a lot more aggressive and held his ground more. I don’t know if he’ll ever be a great defender, but yesterday was a positive step.
 
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Not sure if this was mentioned, because like......skipped a lot of pages.....

But did anyone notice the dramatic change in Ben's court presence? He seemed much more confident and active. This bodes very well for us because in spite of him being this years most... let's say controversial player... our ceiling has a lot to do with his level of contribution.
Go Speed Racer , GOOOOO...
 
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Go Speed Racer , GOOOOO...
speed racer vintage GIF
 
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Slush fund Steve.
Just a few generations too early (came in my freshman year, along with Dennis Pace, Dave Scholz, Les Busboom, and several others...) Steve would have been a great Illini, but freshmen couldn't play varsity back then... Loved that team pre-slush fund...
 
#305      
are we sure washington's a bad team? they beat maryland, can easily see them winning some games at home and pushing for that "mid tier" in the B10.
 
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Ben was also pretty good defensively against Washington
I thought that was his best overall game. His defense and rebounding were more consistent. It is easier to keep him on the floor when he is doing the little things even if his shot is not falling

But we still need more minutes for Morez and that needs to come from Ben's minutes
 
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Played in Wharton Field house in 1964 against Steve Kuberski.
Good to see names of familiar buildings. I played high school ball at Moline. Wharton Field House is an absolute gem. The Quad Cities had a CBA team back in the 80s-90s and they played at Wharton. I remember seeing Kenny Battle playing after he was out of the NBA. Great memories. I also played at Davenport Central’s gym.
 
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I thought that was his best overall game. His defense and rebounding were more consistent. It is easier to keep him on the floor when he is doing the little things even if his shot is not falling

But we still need more minutes for Morez and that needs to come from Ben's minutes
Also has to do with how Washington was defending, Specifically in ball screens
 
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Good to see names of familiar buildings. I played high school ball at Moline. Wharton Field House is an absolute gem. The Quad Cities had a CBA team back in the 80s-90s and they played at Wharton. I remember seeing Kenny Battle playing after he was out of the NBA. Great memories. I also played at Davenport Central’s gym.
Even better than that, from 1946-51 Wharton Field House was the home of the Tri-city Blackhawks … today’s Atlanta Hawks.
 
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I thought that was his best overall game. His defense and rebounding were more consistent. It is easier to keep him on the floor when he is doing the little things even if his shot is not falling

But we still need more minutes for Morez and that needs to come from Ben's minutes
I’ll be surprised if Rez’s minutes increase much as the year goes on. Seems pretty clear at this point Brad wants shooters out there if at all possible
 
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Even better than that, from 1946-51 Wharton Field House was the home of the Tri-city Blackhawks … today’s Atlanta Hawks.
Did they go from Tri-City straight to Saint Louis? Or somewhere else after TC? (long before they wound up in Atlanta years later)
 
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I just don't know what you are seeing in Riley that makes you think he needs 20 more minutes a game. He's hesitant to shoot three pointers and his drives to the hoop are adventurous at best. To his credit, he's pretty decent at putbacks off rebounds. His shooting confidence is gone, and he's not any better defensively than Ben.
Will just looks lost, and I think it's a direct correlation to his shooting and confidence. He needs development (offseason and in-season) to figure things out. A way more prominent argument in this regard is how is Morez only getting 9 minutes. (?)
 
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Slush fund Steve.
Wow. So I start being a fan in 1970 when dad got his position with the U of I. I’d heard of the slush fund. Blows me away to think $35 a month was enough to wreck Illini sports for over a decade - my entire childhood fandom years.

Success can be so fragile for this university. Like many of you I am over the moon happy to be nationally relevant again.

Hopefully Josh and Brad are building a foundation for a permanent place at the table this time. And not just a few years of success followed by a decade of darkness.
 
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Will just looks lost, and I think it's a direct correlation to his shooting and confidence. He needs development (offseason and in-season) to figure things out. A way more prominent argument in this regard is how is Morez only getting 9 minutes. (?)
Morez has managed to get the same whistle that Dain Dainja was getting. Dude breathes on his man and it’s a foul. Reputation calls suck. But they are keeping his minutes down.
 
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Morez has managed to get the same whistle that Dain Dainja was getting. Dude breathes on his man and it’s a foul. Reputation calls suck. But they are keeping his minutes down.
I was struck during the game at how much KJ seemed to look for Morez when he was in, sometimes passing as soon as he touched the ball. I got the impression KJ sees some real opportunities with him, and damn does Morez look strong in person.
 
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are we sure washington's a bad team? they beat maryland, can easily see them winning some games at home and pushing for that "mid tier" in the B10.
They lost to Nevada (8-7, #58 in Kenpom) and Seattle (5-10, #146 in Kenpom), and lost by 24 at home to USC (9-5, #77 in Kenpom). That Maryland game is really their only good win.

It's possible that Maryland win sparked something, but more likely they're a bad team that might occasionally have a good night and surprise someone.
 
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They lost to Nevada (8-7, #58 in Kenpom) and Seattle (5-10, #146 in Kenpom), and lost by 24 at home to USC (9-5, #77 in Kenpom). That Maryland game is really their only good win.

It's possible that Maryland win sparked something, but more likely they're a bad team that might occasionally have a good night and surprise someone.
Compared to that resume, I think they're very much more improved.
 
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Compared to that resume, I think they're very much more improved.
I dont think they are a bad team and they play hard plus I think Sprinkle is a good coach but I just don't see a ton of talent.

They're going to win some games especially at home because I thought they were physical and looked good defensively but they're limited offensively unless a bench guard has a career game.

Also, I think Maryland is more middle of pack then their Kenpom and ranking showed before that game. I just don't buy the depth or perimeter playmaking being enough to win consistently in this conference. Their only conference win is against an OSU team that struggles with size.
 
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It's easy to forget that he's soooooo young. He needs to get mentally and physically stronger. That will come (maybe for next season) if he's dedicated to following Fletcher's recipe for him. I sure hope that happens and I sure hope he's back for a sophomore season.
 
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I was struck during the game at how much KJ seemed to look for Morez when he was in, sometimes passing as soon as he touched the ball. I got the impression KJ sees some real opportunities with him, and damn does Morez look strong in person.
Seems like Rez is often fumbling the pass giving the defense time to react. Can’t be strength by the way he rebounds. Don’t understand why but is holding down his scoring.
 
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I thought he was a lot better on defense last night. Was a lot more aggressive and held his ground more. I don’t know if he’ll ever be a great defender, but yesterday was a positive step.
Don’t know numbers or how to find them but post defense seems much better than last year. Think Ben gets some of the credit along with Tomi and Rez. Layups are consistently challenged and percentages would tell the story but I think Tomi doesn’t get enough credit for his defense. Michigan will be the test with two scoring bigs.
 
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I dont think they are a bad team and they play hard plus I think Sprinkle is a good coach but I just don't see a ton of talent.

They're going to win some games especially at home because I thought they were physical and looked good defensively but they're limited offensively unless a bench guard has a career game.

Also, I think Maryland is more middle of pack then their Kenpom and ranking showed before that game. I just don't buy the depth or perimeter playmaking being enough to win consistently in this conference. Their only conference win is against an OSU team that struggles with size.
Maryland's metrics are propped up by beating the snot out of bad teams. Their NCSOS is 364th out of 364 teams.

They've beaten 7 teams that are 250th or worse on KP. And they've beaten OSU and Syracuse by big margins to make their efficiency metrics look good.

It's very hard to tell how good they are. Personally, I'm with you and think they're a middle of the pack Big Ten team.
 
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