Illinois 82, Notre Dame 72 Postgame

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I started watching his feet last night. He's good with his footwork and getting into position where he needs to be. Reaching is what seems to get him in trouble, but that tie-up he had gives me hope that he might be settling in.
True, it seems like he stayed home better and was more aware of the BIG picture. Yes, I agree his footwork was improved...THAT IS when he kept them on the ground. Getting hung up in the air all the time is his biggest problem IMO. He never met a fake he didn’t jump at. Still, I’d have to say I think you’re right…something is starting to click.
 
#153      
Anyone know why Podz didn't play ??
Because Trent did. I think if he hadn’t been able to go, Podz would have seen some time. So with Trent able to go and the team really needing to put forth an all around good performance, Podz got squeezed out by Trent (32 minutes), Plummer (35) and DMW (36). I hope he’s not getting discouraged, and I was happy to see him very animated on bench.

RJ and Goode might be a little further along right now, but I think the positions they play have probably been a key reason for them getting more playing time too. Podz was ill in the one game he might have received some decent tick, so only played 2 minutes. He’s battling AC, Trent and Plummer for minutes — as well as Hutch and DMW since AC has been out. Plummer isn’t gonna sit much while he’s number 2 scoring option, DMW has brought a much needed steadiness, and Trent is . . . well Trent.
 
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Sure. But I'd imagine, any type of physical exertion would cause symptoms to start up. That's the nature of post concussive symptoms.
I think it’s a combination of two things. First of all the concussion protocol is taken very seriously these days. Look at some other sports including car racing and see what happens to people who suffered subsequent concussions when they are recovering from the first one.
Second I think they are being extra cautious and trying to avoid the second concussion that would take him out of several Big Ten games.
 
#157      
I think that they did both. First Fire, then Hire at the end of the game.
Definitely possible I thought I initially heard Fire Nagy but then Hummel said on broadcast that they got an "update" on what crowd was saying which was Hire Nagy. Either way funny stuff!
 
#158      
Post concussion syndrome, if that is in fact what Curbelo is working through, can be a serious thing. Justin Morneau, the former all-star first baseman for the Twins, missed more than half a season because of it. Corey Koskie, former Brewers third baseman, missed a season and a half.
it's not that. he's dealing with something a bit more minor but the time off should have helped. should see him back out there soon (Friday)
 
#160      
it's not that. he's dealing with something a bit more minor but the time off should have helped. should see him back out there soon (Friday)
Appreciate the info. Hoping the time off lets him get fully healthy... and not have to deal with any ongoing nagging injuries that hamper his play.
 
#161      
Now we have 4 players to have played in all seven games. Not even sure what missing players has meant to practice but it certainly can’t be good in establishing roles and consistency. May still take some time after all are healthy so still nervous about BIG schedule. Only plus is seeing players in situations that probably wouldn’t be experienced otherwise. Have seen a lot more of the frosh than I expected but it was very encouraging. Would really liked to see more of Hutch.
 
#162      
Just a day late, ... but BU and his staff does a great job with Freshman. Goode & Melendez both played well and contributed with confidence. That has to be a big draw for recruiting, play defense and play hard is what it takes to get on the floor.
 
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Because Trent did. I think if he hadn’t been able to go, Podz would have seen some time. So with Trent able to go and the team really needing to put forth an all around good performance, Podz got squeezed out by Trent (32 minutes), Plummer (35) and DMW (36). I hope he’s not getting discouraged, and I was happy to see him very animated on bench.

RJ and Goode might be a little further along right now, but I think the positions they play have probably been a key reason for them getting more playing time too. Podz was ill in the one game he might have received some decent tick, so only played 2 minutes. He’s battling AC, Trent and Plummer for minutes — as well as Hutch and DMW since AC has been out. Plummer isn’t gonna sit much while he’s number 2 scoring option, DMW has brought a much needed steadiness, and Trent is . . . well Trent.
I think once Trent came in, he never sat. I wonder if they were afraid his ankle would swell if he sat.
 
#164      
Yeah, I agree. How they play specific players coming off ball screens is no doubt scouting report informed. (Or it is SUPPOSED to be) AND in general…going over the top is sort of the most common/default way to guard it…Yet, it definitely seems there are certainly situations we’d be better served going under the screen than over it. I think we’ll continue to clean that up.

I don’t think I’d say excellent execution just yet. But yeah, much much better.
We go over every high ball screen to take away the three and force players to try to finish over Kofi, who generally sits in the lane/around the free throw line on high ball screens, or make a longish two point jumper. It makes sense because statistically if you can force the other team to take long twos, that gives you a good chance. We did this last year as well and the only team I remember it not working well against was OSU. But that should be an easy in game adjustment on certain players, we just didn’t do it.
 
#166      
We go over every high ball screen to take away the three and force players to try to finish over Kofi, who generally sits in the lane/around the free throw line on high ball screens, or make a longish two point jumper. It makes sense because statistically if you can force the other team to take long twos, that gives you a good chance. We did this last year as well and the only team I remember it not working well against was OSU. But that should be an easy in game adjustment on certain players, we just didn’t do it.
Yep. I get it.…On-ball defender fights over the top, therefore the help D is in drop……I’m with ya on all that. Clearly, you know what you’re talking about.
AND yes analytics is no friend to the long two.

I guess I didn’t know Illinois players were instructed to automatically go high on all high ball screens…but I’ll buy that. And then his philosophy on side ball-screens is to either ice or hedge everything? Bigs still in drop coverage…correct?

One thing though…can we add Loyola to your list of one? (Ohio State)
I don’t wanna re-hash that frustrating loss… but surely you think we should have attempted going under the screens that day right? (If we weren’t gonna try a zone that is.)
 
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We go over every high ball screen to take away the three and force players to try to finish over Kofi, who generally sits in the lane/around the free throw line on high ball screens, or make a longish two point jumper. It makes sense because statistically if you can force the other team to take long twos, that gives you a good chance. We did this last year as well and the only team I remember it not working well against was OSU. But that should be an easy in game adjustment on certain players, we just didn’t do it.
It isnt working now and has not worked in last games since loyola. Teams are driving with impunity to the basket. Kofi can not move any more than a tree can on defense near the hoop
 
#168      

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I just read Robert’s (illiniboard) write-up on this game, scrolled through the comments, and found this one about Trent:

"Trent’s here, Trent’s there, Trent’s f*cking everywhere!" Thank you for being Roy Kent tough!

I really think the Krush should adopt that for games this year!

If you have no idea what this references, do yourself a favor and go watch Ted Lasso.

Drink Drinking GIF by Apple TV
 
#169      
I just read Robert’s (illiniboard) write-up on this game, scrolled through the comments, and found this one about Trent:



I really think the Krush should adopt that for games this year!

If you have no idea what this references, do yourself a favor and go watch Ted Lasso.

Drink Drinking GIF by Apple TV
Ted Lasso Talking About Me GIF by Apple TV
 
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Yep. I get it.…On-ball defender fights over the top, therefore the help D is in drop……I’m with ya on all that. Clearly, you know what you’re talking about.
AND yes analytics is no friend to the long two.

I guess I didn’t know Illinois players were instructed to automatically go high on all high ball screens…but I’ll buy that. And then his philosophy on side ball-screens is to either ice or hedge everything? Bigs still in drop coverage…correct?

One thing though…can we add Loyola to your list of one? (Ohio State)
I don’t wanna re-hash that frustrating loss… but surely you think we should have attempted going under the screens that day right? (If we weren’t gonna try a zone that is.)

I just assume that the players are instructed to do that because Kofi always drops and everyone always goes over the top. I seem to remember Giorgi hedging screens but he was more mobile than Kofi and less of a rim protector.

And you are very much correct regarding Loyola. The difference is they did handoffs with Krutwig rather than high ball screens to get the defender following the cutters. Here is a snippet of my recap/analysis of that game after it ended:

“They also studied our defense and realized that Kofi never comes out of the paint or applies any pressure on the ball. Obviously, having him in the paint to defend the basket is ideal, but Loyola took full advantage by using the area around the free throw line and top of the key to set up Krutwig and run cutters off of him. Because of the scheme of sitting Kofi in the paint, we always chase the ball handler over the top of the screen, to try to prevent the three and funnel the ball to the basket. Loyola’s strategy was to run the guy that would eventually get the ball off of and off ball screen and then Krutwig, which meant we would consistently lose contact and the guy would be getting the handoff and needing only one dribble to get to the hoop. Kofi then has a 2 on 1 to defend way too often.

This should be a good lesson to develop a zone defense and play it every once in a while so you can go to it if you need, because this offense certainly wouldn’t work against a zone.”
 
#171      
Having a dominate big man inside takes care of a lot of issues, just need to get everyone healthy to see what type of team they really have.
 
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