Illinois 94, UT Rio Grande Valley 85 Postgame

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blackdog

Champaign
BTW Kofi would have had 2 assists in the game but Hawkins got fouled on a nice cut and dish. The last two games he's started to show a little something passing the ball. He still doesn't look very comfortable passing and there were some opportunities I thought he could have kicked out but he was 15-19 from the field so can't blame him for calling his own number.
 
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Only listened to the game so I could not see the effort and lack of defense. But in spite of the fact that the game was tied in the final 5 min. of play, I was glad to see what sounded like solid and aggressive play in the clutch at both ends. Kofi had an elite game per stat line. And I love shooters who can hit 50% from the arc in a close game. Plummer was a hero again tonight, but playing him 25+ min. a game comes with a huge risk...especially if you watched the Zags play Duke tonight. They simply have too many big athletic defenders that can shut Plummer down if needed while taking advantage of his small size and avg. quickness on the other end. He needs to play and get shots while he does, but but having him play with Curbelo really puts tremendous pressure on the front-court to defend too many players (assumes we all can see the obvious that neither can defend big, strong guards who can handle, or small quick guards for that matter). Sadly, this team needs his offense as he seems to be their only elite shooter (Kofi is an elite dunker, not shooter). My hope was that this team could shoot as a group better than any team we have seen for awhile....but that is a pipe dream formed by BU's smoke which, as we are learning, is not to be believed. Guys who are willing to take shots from the arc are hardly elite shooters unless they can be counted on to make 40% or over night after night. Plummer is the only one in that category and is a threat BECAUSE HE SHOOTS A QUICK RELEASE JUMPER SHOT. Trent could be that kind of guy but never has been consistent....and I am not sure why. The rest of these guys are simply willing shooters. Grandison can make shots from behind the arc, but needs to be open. Hutch is in his infancy relative to confidence as an aggressive scorer and we need him to be just that....so no comment on his play until we see some consistent results....but sky is the limit as he can be as good as he wants to be....and the team needs him badly to get there quickly.

Bottom line for me is that this team is comprised of role players and lacks an Alpha dog. Kofi can be handicapped as he cannot create shots in a variety of ways and depends on entry passes that the team seems to perform without a great deal of expertise. He sure works at it hard and has shown improvement where he needs to show it...FF, passing, short jumpers. Regardless, this game was far from all bad. It was the type of game we have seen lost in recent years, and yet this make shift lineup pulled it out and found a way to cut the turnovers, share the scoring, and defend in clutch time against a team that was playing their hearts out and shooting the lights out.

Now, Monday night will be a huge test of how quickly these guys can help and rotate, Brey's teams share the ball and make the extra pass famously well and generally shoot well every game. Turn it over in double figures and winning becomes extremely difficult. Fortunately, two ND alums who have been with us since Wed. will leave before the game so I can try to encourage the Illini through my two-way TV...maybe even give BU some advice in the clutch. Never can do enough for the team...right?
 
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Dear coach, I think our best player is a big guy named Cockburn. I think our second best player is a little guy named Plummer. Probably a safe bet to have these 2 guys start and work on the other 3 players for each lineup. And congrats on beating UT Rio Grande Valley tonight.
Plummer is our second best scoring option, but he is not our second best player. Maybe that will change if he learns to defend. JMO :)
 
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Hutch, I pegged you as my dark horse coming into the season...where are you?! You were supposed to have a 3 pt shot...what happened?! You are athletic, but why arent you using it? I am still holding out hope but it's waning every minute you're out there not contributing. I was thinking Alan griffin like...but not seeing any part of that in him. Sigh
 
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Hutch, I pegged you as my dark horse coming into the season...where are you?! You were supposed to have a 3 pt shot...what happened?! You are athletic, but why arent you using it? I am still holding out hope but it's waning every minute you're out there not contributing. I was thinking Alan griffin like...but not seeing any part of that in him. Sigh
I tell you hutch is one of the only successful drivers in the last couple games....nice baseline drive one game and this game a good penetration from wing. I think he has a ton of opportunities with Kofi and Plumer pulling defenders attention
 
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Questions
Would antigua have omar playing better
Would gentry have us playing better defense
 
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Hutch, I pegged you as my dark horse coming into the season...where are you?! You were supposed to have a 3 pt shot...what happened?! You are athletic, but why arent you using it? I am still holding out hope but it's waning every minute you're out there not contributing. I was thinking Alan griffin like...but not seeing any part of that in him. Sigh
I tell you hutch is one of the only successful drivers in the last couple games....nice baseline drive one game and this game a good penetration from wing. I think he has a ton of opportunities with Kofi and Plumer pulling defenders attention
 
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Hutch, I pegged you as my dark horse coming into the season...where are you?! You were supposed to have a 3 pt shot...what happened?! You are athletic, but why arent you using it? I am still holding out hope but it's waning every minute you're out there not contributing. I was thinking Alan griffin like...but not seeing any part of that in him. Sigh
Hutch, I am going to give you some time to get your game sharpened before I pass judgement on how good of player you are going to be. You have been out of games for so long now it wouldn't be fair to pass judgement on you after a week of games. Especially coming off a tailbone injury in which you are limited by number of minutes you can play.
I still think you are going to be a contributor for us. I see flashes of how good you can be every game. Good luck!
 
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Omar Payne only playing two minutes is extremely concerning.
His ability to miss every shot from point blank and ability to play defense is too. He allows defenders by so he can get the block it seems, sometimes. BBV was Excellent in the 1st half particularly, he understood entry angles and how to help the team.
 
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Bright spots in progression with Hawk from game to game, contributions from Ben (when we expected nothing), Alph living up to his shooting rep, and Luke looking like a frosh contributor.
Only really black hole seems to be Omar. Hope it is a funk but not optimistic.
With injuries, suspension, and flu bug, chemistry not coming together at this point.
 
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Tacomallini

Washington State
After watching this game my only question is...are Pruman's 3 neighbor ladies present at the same time or on some kinda rotation?
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
After watching this game my only question is...are Pruman's 3 neighbor ladies present at the same time or on some kinda rotation?
Taco , go and read the Old Age Anon thread....all the answers to your questions are there .......they really really are....................

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Bright spots in progression with Hawk from game to game, contributions from Ben (when we expected nothing), Alph living up to his shooting rep, and Luke looking like a frosh contributor.
Only really black hole seems to be Omar. Hope it is a funk but not optimistic.
With injuries, suspension, and flu bug, chemistry not coming together at this point.
Hawkins was terrible defensively! Has been the last 2-3 games. He bites on every fake.
 
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Guessing UTRGV coach watched the Loyola tape, because the second half action they ran looked an awful lot like Loyola. We are great at fighting through screens, but even our best defenders get on their man’s hip when fighting through 2 and 3 screens. And tonight we…didn’t have our best defenders.

Brad alluded to it during the press conference that you have to be a tough SOB to defend screens like we do. I do think we need a plan B, whether that’s switching or zone or whatever. Will give Brad a bit of a pass for now given all of the injuries, I’m sure he hasn’t had a chance to install anything. But it’s concerning to be sure.
 
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Justin Johnson got to the rim at will and scored 29. The postgame video of the teams shaking hands showed Underwood talking to him for an extraordinarily long time. Is it bad form to urge someone into the transfer portal before he even gets back to the locker room?
 
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Guessing UTRGV coach watched the Loyola tape, because the second half action they ran looked an awful lot like Loyola. We are great at fighting through screens, but even our best defenders get on their man’s hip when fighting through 2 and 3 screens. And tonight we…didn’t have our best defenders.

Brad alluded to it during the press conference that you have to be a tough SOB to defend screens like we do. I do think we need a plan B, whether that’s switching or zone or whatever. Will give Brad a bit of a pass for now given all of the injuries, I’m sure he hasn’t had a chance to install anything. But it’s concerning to be sure.
Everybody has watched the Loyola tape. Everyone knows to double or triple Kofi because he can't or won't pass out of it.

The difference is, this year our defense isn't close to what it was last year. Ayo and Miller were both top notch defenders. The new guys getting big minutes this year are not great defenders.

I'm quite sure the staff knows this. Presumably that is a focus in practices.
 
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Everybody has watched the Loyola tape. Everyone knows to double or triple Kofi because he can't or won't pass out of it.

The difference is, this year our defense isn't close to what it was last year. Ayo and Miller were both top notch defenders. The new guys getting big minutes this year are not great defenders.

I'm quite sure the staff knows this. Presumably that is a focus in practices.
I was referring to their offensive sets where they ran Johnson through 2-3 screens and had him going downhill to his right hand.
 
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Justin Johnson got to the rim at will and scored 29. The postgame video of the teams shaking hands showed Underwood talking to him for an extraordinarily long time. Is it bad form to urge someone into the transfer portal before he even gets back to the locker room?
He scored 10 at Arizona earlier this year. So not really sure how good he is vs how bad our defense is.

Beware the Marcus Arnold effect.
 
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sacraig

The desert
Everybody has watched the Loyola tape. Everyone knows to double or triple Kofi because he can't or won't pass out of it.

The difference is, this year our defense isn't close to what it was last year. Ayo and Miller were both top notch defenders. The new guys getting big minutes this year are not great defenders.

I'm quite sure the staff knows this. Presumably that is a focus in practices.
Whoa whoa whoa, didn't you get the memo that Miller was useless?