Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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The new administration has reversed that. They're expanding enrollment generally.
University of Illinois is always going to attract smart kids who want to get into the College of Business or the College of Engineering. That is still true today for the kids who qualify from the school districts that pump out the high ACT/SAT score students - your top 15%-20% kids from NewTrier, Stevenson , Hinsdales, the 5 Napervilles in those two districts out there, Wheatons, LT, York, DG's, etc.

The DuPage schools and the northern Cook / southern Lake county schools could basically fill those colleges up .

Where UI is not getting the kids is the ones who want to be teachers, or any one of the various LAS degrees. People have a hard time justifying the tuition for a History degree when you can get it out of state for $10,000-$15,000 a year less. That's not an exaggeration.

So it continues to attract the smart suburban students to Bus/Eng and it doesn't matter if your last name is Anderson, Chen, Patel , Gomez , or Washington. The students will still come for those degrees en masse. Yea a lot of those kids will go east to college, but they always did if they could afford it.

We are losing the smart LAS/Edu/others to schools in the B12 and SEC that will offer substantial partial academic schollies to kids from ILL. Maybe the minority students aren't as tempted to go out of state to the SEC or B12, but the kids named Anderson or Murphy or Balducci are not real hip on paying $40,000 per year for a teaching degree and will get it at the state schools in the south or plains states for $25,000 per year.

It is what it is.

without commenting on the positives or negatives of that, the place is far different today than 25-30 years ago.
 
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I know we are off topic ( sorry Dan) but does anyone know if the university can offer various scholarships per college,or degree? For example, a 28 ACT will most likely not get you into Business, Engineering, but could it earn you money in LAS or education for example? Or is that discrimination?

Edit: back to topic, perhaps more educators who are alums of Illinois might actually foster a more positive attitude in general toward Illinois.

I mean, in its basic form, it's discriminatory to not hand scholarships out to someone who, for instance, is not a certain race or ethnic group. However, there are plenty of scholarships that are restricted to latino, african american, asian, women, disabled, etc. So it is discriminatory to give scholarships to an English major with an ACT of 29, but not an engineer who has an ACT of 31, if ACT score was the only deciding factor.
 
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Lets get back on track with some Fabian talk. If he was supposed to visit today, has anyone heard anything about the visit?
 
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Saw that. There is that Louisiana DB that is always tweeting pro Illini. Is he a better prospect than JT?

I am not sure. I could not find anything on him anywhere. But man that dude has been begging for an IL offer for months now
 
#807      

skyIdub

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I just moved to Woodstock this past fall. One more Illini flag in the county. The tide is turning!

I proudly planted my flag by my driveway just down the road from Jacobs HS in Algonquin! :illinois:
 
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I know we are off topic ( sorry Dan) but does anyone know if the university can offer various scholarships per college,or degree? For example, a 28 ACT will most likely not get you into Business, Engineering, but could it earn you money in LAS or education for example? Or is that discrimination?

Edit: back to topic, perhaps more educators who are alums of Illinois might actually foster a more positive attitude in general toward Illinois.

Lots of Illinois grads in the schools where I teach.
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Thank you. I didn't mean to sound ungrateful as to the extent of your research, appreciate all the thought and effort.

We will never lock up the state, but if we can do a better job of keeping the top talent at home, we will be at least at an Iowa level each year, and hopefully the consistency of Wisconsin


Didn't take it that way, was a good question. 2012 was the most painful year because a good chunk of the top-10 made the pros and Illinois went 0-fer.
 
#810      
Two things:

1. We may lose Illinois kids until we turn around the program.
2. I feel a commitment coming.
 
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I know we are off topic ( sorry Dan) but does anyone know if the university can offer various scholarships per college,or degree? For example, a 28 ACT will most likely not get you into Business, Engineering, but could it earn you money in LAS or education for example? Or is that discrimination?

Edit: back to topic, perhaps more educators who are alums of Illinois might actually foster a more positive attitude in general toward Illinois.

Grateful university gave me a chance as a lower ACT student. Graduated in 4 years with science degree and attended grad and professional school. Contributor to college scholly fund annually. Bottom line there are talents GPA/ACT don't reveal. Glad university offered me one semester to prove myself.
 
#813      

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Naperville
I am not sure. I could not find anything on him anywhere. But man that dude has been begging for an IL offer for months now

I'm guessing you guys are talking about Fred Kelly?

I was looking for information on him as well since he mentioned he would be visiting Illinois on April 28th:

https://twitter.com/Guhhthatsfredo/status/979402937339449350

This is all I could find, which isn't much:

https://247sports.com/Player/Fredrick-Kelly-46053520
https://www.hudl.com/profile/7728304/Fred-Kelly

He probably needs to attend a camp for us to extend an offer. Even Marquez camped with us when he visited with Myers and Avery back in June of 2017. The staff usually likes to see a player in person because sometimes their height is a bit different from what their profile lists. The exception may be guys like Erick Young who has offers from just about everyone.

I have no idea if Fred Kelly is better than Joseph Thompson but it really comes down to fit and need. This staff has a certain type of CB that they recruit. Usually 6"1+ with 4.50/40 speed.

Just look at someone like Dylan Wyatt. He's still rated as a 1 star recruit on the 247 composite rankings and only appears to have one other FBS offer (SJSU). However, he's 6'2 and appears to have good speed.

I would question why we offered Thompson in the first place but maybe we wanted to wait until later in the process before accepting his commitment. We also could have been looking at him as a potential S but at his size he would be somewhat of a project. If the class was bigger and if we hadn't added so many DBs in the last class I wouldn't think it would have been a problem.

I can't blamed a kid for wanting to secure a spot at a place where he's wanted as opposed to being slow played.
 
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I'm guessing you guys are talking about Fred Kelly?

I was looking for information on him as well since he mentioned he would be visiting Illinois on April 28th:

https://twitter.com/Guhhthatsfredo/status/979402937339449350

This is all I could find, which isn't much:

https://247sports.com/Player/Fredrick-Kelly-46053520
https://www.hudl.com/profile/7728304/Fred-Kelly

He probably needs to attend a camp for us to extend an offer. Even Marquez camped with us when he visited with Myers and Avery back in June of 2017. The staff usually likes to see a player in person because sometimes their height is a bit different from what their profile lists. The exception may be guys like Erick Young who has offers from just about everyone.

I have no idea if Fred Kelly is better than Joseph Thompson but it really comes down to fit and need. This staff has a certain type of CB that they recruit. Usually 6"1+ with 4.50/40 speed.

Just look at someone like Dylan Wyatt. He's still rated as a 1 star recruit on the 247 composite rankings and only appears to have one other FBS offer (SJSU). However, he's 6'2 and appears to have good speed.

I would question why we offered Thompson in the first place but maybe we wanted to wait until later in the process before accepting his commitment. We also could have been looking at him as a potential S but at his size he would be somewhat of a project. If the class was bigger and if we hadn't added so many DBs in the last class I wouldn't think it would have been a problem.

I can't blamed a kid for wanting to secure a spot at a place where he's wanted as opposed to being slow played.

I believe we have already offered Fred Kelly and even if we didn’t offer his twitter pic already says Illgang19 as for Thompson I believe the staff just realized they could get a more talented player at the position. So no I don’t blame the kid for not wanting the wait and I don’t blame the staff for trying to bring the best players to play with us
 
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I believe we have already offered Fred Kelly and even if we didn’t offer his twitter pic already says Illgang19 as for Thompson I believe the staff just realized they could get a more talented player at the position. So no I don’t blame the kid for not wanting the wait and I don’t blame the staff for trying to bring the best players to play with us

Well I posted a few weeks back some tweets of his asking numerous times for an offer from IL. I have not seen anything different since then. Doesn't look like he has any major offers as of now. Maybe he gets here and the staff likes him?
I do think its funny that he made that his profile pic....Dude looking like he is trying to speak it into existence. I hope it works out for him
 
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Well I posted a few weeks back some tweets of his asking numerous times for an offer from IL. I have not seen anything different since then. Doesn't look like he has any major offers as of now. Maybe he gets here and the staff likes him?
I do think its funny that he made that his profile pic....Dude looking like he is trying to speak it into existence. I hope it works out for him

Sounds a bit like Earlzo Singleton
 
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Sounds a bit like Earlzo Singleton

Its a good possibility. He set an unofficial up at Oregon....Said he had a conversation with CPatt but Corey didn't retweet it, which he usually does I do believe.
 
#818      

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I'm new to following recruiting, so 'splain something to me, Lucy: If a school invites a kid to an "official visit," which I presume includes airfare for more distant candidates, how does an OV relate to an offer. Does one usually get an offer before the visit? Is the visit a chance to check each other out pre-offer? What's the usual?
 
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I'm new to following recruiting, so 'splain something to me, Lucy: If a school invites a kid to an "official visit," which I presume includes airfare for more distant candidates, how does an OV relate to an offer. Does one usually get an offer before the visit? Is the visit a chance to check each other out pre-offer? What's the usual?

I would say that all depends on the recruit. For example, Eric Young from Texas got an offer without an official visit. And I am sure they would accept his commitment without a visit (not that that would/will happen). But for those nontop 100 kids that the staff may not know as much about, ya they probably would want to meet the kid first....or its a way to slow play a recruit as well.
 
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illini80

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Is there a timeline of any kind for Billingsley? I'm hoping for some more commits soon to keep the momentum going. I feel like he could swing our way if things fall just right, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high.
 
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