It's not surprising they backed off their announcement this weekend with all that was going on in the country. Not the best timing to put the spotlight on yourself .maybe next week/month.
It's not surprising they backed off their announcement this weekend with all that was going on in the country. Not the best timing to put the spotlight on yourself .maybe next week/month.
I think you'll see us consistently get better recruits than we have in the past. Unfortunately, the rest of the B1G got better at recruiting when our facilities got better. However, I wouldn't expect us to have top half of the big ten classes.Fair enough, our facilities were sub-par. Now they are very good. Can we start expecting recruiting classes at least in the top half of the big 10 again?
I don't think we will ever get a top 35 recruiting class with lovie Smith as the coach which is what we would need to get close to the top half. The highest class we've had under lovie was 46 in 2017. That class had 26 players which probably won't happen again now that lovie has committed to transfers. Lovie did have us 8th in the conference in the team Talent composite last year so he may be able to pull that off though.Fair enough, our facilities were sub-par. Now they are very good. Can we start expecting recruiting classes at least in the top half of the big 10 again?
That has to be the hope.I suspect they'll need to get kids on campus for visits for the facility upgrade to have much of an impact. Right now, the situation favors the established programs.
Personally, I think the commitment to transfers could continue to help with winning; which might increase the chances of signing better quality recruits.
Fair enough, our facilities were sub-par. Now they are very good. Can we start expecting recruiting classes at least in the top half of the big 10 again?
It's a valid approach; it's all contingent on most of the transfers being good enough to make the 2 deep of a top half Big 10 program. We also need some of these guys to be NFL caliber players, particularly since we aren't going to get many out of the prep ranks. If these hold true, then this strategy can work.I suspect they'll need to get kids on campus for visits for the facility upgrade to have much of an impact. Right now, the situation favors the established programs.
Personally, I think the commitment to transfers could continue to help with winning; which might increase the chances of signing better quality recruits.
A really close friend of mine played with Fleck at NIU, and has never had anything good to say about the guy. Was a snake even in his playing days.Not sure I’ve ever met anyone that likes PJ Fleck but obviously a lot of kids do. I can’t imagine he’s going to be at Minnesota much longer. He has been cleaning up in the state of Illinois which isn’t ideal.
A really close friend of mine played with Fleck at NIU, and has never had anything good to say about the guy. Was a snake even in his playing days.
no, it’s not because of talent. It’s because the coaching staff prioritizes speed and size over other things. The believe they can teach the rest.
Also, to have classes in the top half of the big, we would need to consistently recruit 25 prep recruits, which means we would be creaning players every year. Our staff won’t do that. To the small classes, add fewer prep recruits to hit the transfer market, our ratings won’t be top caliber.
This staff does seem to recruit to their values over rankings & I think most of us can live with the small ding we will take for a bit smaller class, but even without creaming I expect our classes to get back closer to 20 in size, seems like when you start recruiting 1&2 year transfers you are going to need to bring in 25/yr to stay close to 85 & as we start adding some depth I think it will be harder to convince impact transfers that we are the best landing spot. But I’m hoping we can get back to landing an average Ranking number close to Branson/Williams year. We get something close to that in a class Of 20 or so; I’m willing to call that top half of the B1G, doesn’t matter what 247 says. With 3 or 4 in a row of that type of class we should be able to compete in the West. I’m hoping for a good year this year so we can test the winning correlation to recruiting theory.no, it’s not because of talent. It’s because the coaching staff prioritizes speed and size over other things. The believe they can teach the rest.
Also, to have classes in the top half of the big, we would need to consistently recruit 25 prep recruits, which means we would be creaning players every year. Our staff won’t do that. To the small classes, add fewer prep recruits to hit the transfer market, our ratings won’t be top caliber.
This is an issue. The staff turnover does not jive with your “Teach the rest”. The development is a concern with this staff. It’s time to look in the damn mirror and be real, we just ain’t recruiting that well!no, it’s not because of talent. It’s because the coaching staff prioritizes speed and size over other things. The believe they can teach the rest.
Also, to have classes in the top half of the big, we would need to consistently recruit 25 prep recruits, which means we would be creaning players every year. Our staff won’t do that. To the small classes, add fewer prep recruits to hit the transfer market, our ratings won’t be top caliber.
sorry, but Fleck kills it on recruiting trail, gets guys drafted, gets the wins : yet gets hammered here. Strange considering he gets results. But I’m sure you’ll create a rainbow for Illini reality
There was zero chance that Whitman was going to hire Fleck: https://www.news-gazette.com/sports...cle_07913c52-6f85-57e9-a71a-ca70662049a3.htmlCouldn't agree more. We can hate (read as jealousy) on him for his mantra, but you're kidding yourself if you think he hasn't shown to be an excellent college coach. Easy to look back and realize that would have been a slam dunk hire by Illinois for a number of reasons. At this point I am hoping he continues to kill it at Minny so he moves on to a West Coast job or to the NFL.
I can understand trustees not supporting Beckman because even at the time that hire was questionable at best. I also see why they would want to hire a black coach because that could give us a competitive advantage all things considered. It seems a little ridiculous for some trustees to only approve a black coach regardless of qualification though (a nfl RB coach doesn't exactly make you qualified to be HC at a P5).There was zero chance that Whitman was going to hire Fleck: https://www.news-gazette.com/sports...cle_07913c52-6f85-57e9-a71a-ca70662049a3.html
I would say the Georgia gamble will be the best gamble this staff has made since Austin Clark.So reading between the lines..Fleck is terrible, Lovie is awesome, we have all data we will ever need in order to reach undeniable conclusions, and the Georgia gamble was the best gamble anyone has ever made in the history of gambles!!!
I would say the Georgia gamble will be the best gamble this staff has made since Austin Clark.
I don't think you understand, the staff is specifically targeting 3* only. They want nothing to do with 4 or 5If the staff land 4 and 5 star recruits out of Georgia I can totally agree with this statement.
Why limit ourselves, I have to think some legit 2* players are prime for the picking right now.I don't think you understand, the staff is specifically targeting 3* only. They want nothing to do with 4 or 5
I don't think you understand, the staff is specifically targeting 3* only. They want nothing to do with 4 or 5
My cousin in Bettendorf said that is what Iowa basically does now. They have had much more success with 3* guys than the 4* and 5* guys, who basically just caused trouble for them.I don't think you understand, the staff is specifically targeting 3* only. They want nothing to do with 4 or 5
I agree. Iowa should not recruit the next AJ Epenesa.My cousin in Bettendorf said that is what Iowa basically does now. They have had much more success with 3* guys than the 4* and 5* guys, who basically just caused trouble for them.