altenberger22
- South Carolina
I haven't heard. However, two very different academic institutions:
WF - Elite Liberal Arts school
ILL - Very good state school (with elite Accounting and Engineering programs)
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WF - Elite Liberal Arts school
ILL - Very good state school (with elite Accounting and Engineering programs)
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
I do not know anything about Washington's specific academic situation but this would track if there is a concern regarding his progress-towards-degree.
Link for those wanting a deep dive: Progress Towards Degree
Im glad he's back
there is likely more to the story than anyone would know, but who cares.
he's back,
he's eligible
and he will likely be getting lots of playing time with us
illini80
- Forgottonia
Post in thread 'Illinois Football Recruiting Thread'
https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/illinois-football-recruiting-thread.26587/post-1638949
This seemed the most logical explanation on Casey Washington.
https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/illinois-football-recruiting-thread.26587/post-1638949
This seemed the most logical explanation on Casey Washington.
Anyone know anything about Kaden Feagin, 2023 athlete? Saw on Twitter he is going to take unofficial on July 30 after visiting in June. Has offers from Iowa and Rutgers too. 247 has him as 3-star and #4 in Illinois (from Arthur).
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Werner's podcast mentioned that Feagin will be one of the top priorities for Bielema's staff in 2023 and will be a good assessment for their in-state recruiting. Need to find a way to break the cycle and get one of these guys each year. 2023 class has a number of guys in more hospitable locations (related to past recruiting success for Illinois football) than the past couple of classes.
From my hometown, if I hear anything I’ll let y’all know.
(I’m guessing I won’t hear anything)
(I’m guessing I won’t hear anything)
Right in the mode of Elton and Delton . . .
Feagin was convicted of rape and sentenced to prison. Elton and Delton ate some free pizza and apparently wore (kept?) jackets because it was cold and they were foolish enough to visit C-U in January without jackets. They certainly didn’t do anything to get lumped in with Feagin.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Nimrod with a very large bump up on 247: https://247sports.com/player/chas-nimrod-46112782/
Nearly top 500 now. I realize our WR group is full, but I'm almost certain we'd make room for him.
Nearly top 500 now. I realize our WR group is full, but I'm almost certain we'd make room for him.
I understand the rankings will change, but Lovie's worst class is equal to Bielema's first, even if the national and B1G rankings for Bielema are better (looking at AVG grade and top-1000 recruits). All of Lovie's classs were pretty much equal to or better than Bielema's (so far). You can see a downward trend in Lovie's class. Still, Bielema is coming into a much better situation than Lovie did. Lovie may not have worked out, but he left the program in better shape than he found it.
I do hope, at the end of the day, people understand that. Lovie came into a terrible situation, did not have the tools (desire?) to survive at this level, yet still left the program in a better spot.
However, is this a praise of Lovie? Or yet another indictment of how bad Beckman/Cubit were?
I follow football recruiting much more casually than basketball, partly bc I think BB can be completely changed by 1-2 “elite” 
players where FB you obviously still need good players but you can have strengths at certain schemes and such.
That said, my casual impression was that we were getting some very good players, including some that we wouldn’t not have even been in on a year ago.
players where FB you obviously still need good players but you can have strengths at certain schemes and such.That said, my casual impression was that we were getting some very good players, including some that we wouldn’t not have even been in on a year ago.
Not to mention the inroads to Illinois that Lovie seemed to completely dismiss. To me, that was his biggest down fall. Well, to me and about a million others that have said the same thing.
Only because he followed Beckman/Cubit, not because of hard work to build a program
Well, we are universally projected to be the worst team in the Big 10 this year, behind even Rutgers, so I'm not really convinced we are any better off than we were pre-Lovie.
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
The only reason we are better off is because of Whitman. We finished 6th in Lovie's first season and 7th in his last season. Through all of that we've improved our facilities to be top 10 in the nation, that's about the only reason we are now better off.
Im not suggesting that we are going to be A LOT BETTER than last year, but we could be. The preseason rankings that come out two-three months before the season starts are seldom that accurate top to bottom.
Will we be in the bottom 4-5 in the league ? thats more likely than in the middle 4-5.
But no one predicted we would be that good in 2001 or 2007 either, and the press writes what they think they know, which is not much really .
Lovie was a big name that brought some attention to the program. The program was a complete dumpster fire when Lovie took the job. I don't believe it is now. I'm pretty optimistic about Illinois. Some of the pieces that are still in place were probably attractive to Bielema in his decision to take the job. Absolutely no doubt that Whitman decided that it was long past time to invest in the program. He deserves credit for that, and the improvements to Ubben. Keep in mind that Whitman hired Lovie, even extended his contract...Groce too. So, if you're going to give credit solely to Whitman, it only goes to reason that you blame him for the status that was Illinois football and basketball. I know the Lovie haters in the forum can't give the man any credit. I get that. I will always believe that Lovie is a man of integrity that did good things for the program.
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Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
The extension had no guaranteed money and Lovie was fired before he coached any of those extension years. It was used a way to lure recruits that might have been apprehensive about joining a staff that will likely be completely overhauled in a few years if Lovie didn't get it together quickly.
I appreciate Lovie for navigating the Beckman scandal and giving the Illinois name a bit more integrity, but we have never (recent memory) been more of a laughing stock amongst the B1G competitively than we are right now.
Illinivek23
- Gurnee
Glad to have BB and his talented staff working alongside JW to right this ship! Long overdue!
Short memory? The team has been mostly terrible for 30 years. I was a kid during White and Mackovic, so it's kind of the way I see Illinois' rightful place. But, recent memory, they have been mostly worse before Lovie.
Homecoming 2019
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No one is saying we are a good program. But seriously, how often have we been ranked dead last in the B1G preseason 2 years straight. It's probably been some time. Maybe early Zook, late Turner. But this is pretty abysmal even for us.
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