Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Battle89
Oldskoolkoach said:
Absolutely nuts! Something has to be done! Players are making more than coaches...that is sure to cause some issues.

Maybe we should consider something like:
"You get 15% over the next 4 years and the rest will be in a trust until you are 25."
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TGB
Now it's a bidding war for top recruits. NCAA should have put a cap on offers.
 
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Kendall Gill’s Uncle
GILL-INOIS said:
Don't quote me on this but pretty sure the person/company that was putting up the NIL money backed out weeks before Jaden Rashada signed anything. The timeline as I read was

-Rashada switched to Florida in November

-Month later person who was giving the money backed out

-Few weeks later Jaden Rashada signs with Florida even after knowing of breakdown

-Rashada is now asking for his National Letter of Intent to be voided by the NCAA

If Rashada didn't sign anything, enroll at school and also is asking to void his NLI than doubt he has much of a case


I don't feel sorry for the young man one bit. I don't mind NIL but if this wasn't in writing or signed than so be it. Rashada decided to switch from Miami to Florida(for money), than if no contract is worked out and signed I have no problem with the other side backing out either. It isn't a good look for the young man or Florida. Both will come out ok on the end of this...
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Would the LOI be voided by the NCAA or Florida. I agree with you. The only way I see him getting anything is if they didn’t release him.
 
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Navy_illini
GILL-INOIS said:
Don't quote me on this but pretty sure the person/company that was putting up the NIL money backed out weeks before Jaden Rashada signed anything. The timeline as I read was

-Rashada switched to Florida in November

-Month later person who was giving the money backed out

-Few weeks later Jaden Rashada signs with Florida even after knowing of breakdown

-Rashada is now asking for his National Letter of Intent to be voided by the NCAA

If Rashada didn't sign anything, enroll at school and also is asking to void his NLI than doubt he has much of a case


I don't feel sorry for the young man one bit. I don't mind NIL but if this wasn't in writing or signed than so be it. Rashada decided to switch from Miami to Florida(for money), than if no contract is worked out and signed I have no problem with the other side backing out either. It isn't a good look for the young man or Florida. Both will come out ok on the end of this...
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I think the problem right now are these high school kids are getting into complex deals and they cannot have an agent who specializes in these deals to help negotiate and understand the details of the deals. Yes the kid with a high school education can read but legal contracts are confusing and have lots of fine print. Sometimes the people advising this kids don’t know better either
 
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aaeismacgychel
TGB said:
Now it's a bidding war for top recruits. NCAA should have put a cap on offers.
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And there's the rub, either students have rights to their NIL or they don't. So a cap is probably not legal in this circumstance. What they should have done is that since a college is allowing them a platform to grow and exhibit their NIL at a national level, that their being granted NIL is contingent upon graduating from said university and money they get over the NCAA allotment will go into an account deliverable upon graduating
 
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illini80
Navy_illini said:
I think the problem right now are these high school kids are getting into complex deals and they cannot have an agent who specializes in these deals to help negotiate and understand the details of the deals. Yes the kid with a high school education can read but legal contracts are confusing and have lots of fine print. Sometimes the people advising this kids don’t know better either
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I thought they could have an agent or representative? Am I wrong? Seems like a terrible and suspect rule if true. Would a court hold that a kid is not entitled to that?
 
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GILL-INOIS
Kendall Gill’s Uncle said:
Would the LOI be voided by the NCAA or Florida. I agree with you. The only way I see him getting anything is if they didn’t release him.
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I don't see why Florida wouldn't release him soon but this goes to a board the NCAA manages. A signed NLI is a binding agreement between the school and the player. My terminology might be off but I think that binds the player to play for that institution for one academic year plus the institution provides the athlete financial aid for that one academic year. That is all that Florida has to provide from a signed NLI if i understand the wording correctly. Like everything with the NCAA and legal terms there are extenuating circumstances for each case.

I am not a lawyer but I don't think the QB would have a case against Florida at all. I don't agree with all the junk lawsuits but he would be seeking legal action against Gator Collective, basically the independent fan club with money that would have been paying the young man.

To answer the other question, if Florida wouldn't release him for some reason than the board he appealed to would have the final say.

There are rules with NLI, not so much with NIL. Be interesting to see if this brings about new rules for NIL or not in the future.


On a side note, bunch of Pac 12 teams all over this kid already
 
#41      
oldman
By fighting NIL to the bitter end, rather than accepting the future and creating a structure when it could have been done, the NCAA has lost any hope of controlling NIL compensation. A common consequence of bullheaded inability to accept reasonable compromise.
 
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Navy_illini
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mhuml32
TGB said:
Now it's a bidding war for top recruits. NCAA should have put a cap on offers.
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aaeismacgychel said:
And there's the rub, either students have rights to their NIL or they don't. So a cap is probably not legal in this circumstance. What they should have done is that since a college is allowing them a platform to grow and exhibit their NIL at a national level, that their being granted NIL is contingent upon graduating from said university and money they get over the NCAA allotment will go into an account deliverable upon graduating
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Depriving fair market wages is how you take a million dollar cost problem and turn it into a mega million dollar legal cost problem (and still having the cost problem).

NCAA tried to do this with coaches and lost in spectacular fashion.
 
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