Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Wisconsin keeps creeping towards Nebraska with “winning” offseasons and believing they can win merely by having talent and not thinking about fit and other edges.
I think the only people that would call Wisco a "winner" of the offseason are those who follow transfer rankings. If you take into account what they have lost, they are major losers right now
 
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Besides for Kreutz we already have a bunch of massive linemen. We don’t need big slow guys that are stiff.


Thank you!!!! I don't know who needs to hear this, but a strong, nasty, mobile 6'2" 290 OL is far superior to a Slow, stiff, massive body.

Give me an OL of angry little pitbulls over these soft and slow massive bodies that get all the attention just because they are large.
 
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Even after 2007 I wasn't sold on Zook as a coach, merely as a recruiter (which was a huge component of success, of course). We never seemed to have complete teams under his leadership, position coaching seemed spotty, in-game decisions often suspect, and he just never seemed confident and in control. I saw him as fundamentally flawed. I hoped I was wrong. And then Beckman made him look like Tom Landry.


That's the answer I expected from anyone on board as a fan at the time. I wasn't walking yet ;) You're the definition of "long-suffering Illini football fan."
I told a buddy in 2007 that Zook took the fun out of winning. His leads were so tenuous because of his unpredictable game management, and routinely awful special teams. His best season came out of nowhere, and since I'd been burned previously I wasn't ready to trust what was happening until AFTER the win count grew. And then of course it blew up completely.

Then it caught fire. And decomposed for several seasons
coaches
, and then Josh was hired (maybe as a hail mary?...I don't know), and I'm glad we are where we are today!
 
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Thank you!!!! I don't know who needs to hear this, but a strong, nasty, mobile 6'2" 290 OL is far superior to a Slow, stiff, massive body.

Give me an OL of angry little pitbulls over these soft and slow massive bodies that get all the attention just because they are large.
I think we all are just hoping for Bielema era Wisconsin OL where they were bigger than most NFL OLs and just road grading zone blocking scheme to wear down and beat up opponents I agree you don't have to be big to be good OL, but it sure helps. There is a reason there aren't many OL under 6'3" 300 lbs in the NFL.
 
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Thank you!!!! I don't know who needs to hear this, but a strong, nasty, mobile 6'2" 290 OL is far superior to a Slow, stiff, massive body.

Give me an OL of angry little pitbulls over these soft and slow massive bodies that get all the attention just because they are large.

Exactly, whitenack was 6’7 340lbs and struggled. His issue was being to slow and stiff.
 
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I think we all are just hoping for Bielema era Wisconsin OL where they were bigger than most NFL OLs and just road grading zone blocking scheme to wear down and beat up opponents I agree you don't have to be big to be good OL, but it sure helps. There is a reason there aren't many OL under 6'3" 300 lbs in the NFL.

Part of the reason they wore down teams was because they always had a great running back room
 
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I think we all are just hoping for Bielema era Wisconsin OL where they were bigger than most NFL OLs and just road grading zone blocking scheme to wear down and beat up opponents I agree you don't have to be big to be good OL, but it sure helps. There is a reason there aren't many OL under 6'3" 300 lbs in the NFL.


I think that will change though. Nfl has a bad OL problem, guys are too big and slow to handle the speed and athleticism of dlinemen. Bears fans see this every week lol
 
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Big mistake but he’ll have to learn the hard way.
Not a mistake for him if he's getting paid. If he ends up not being worth what they're paying then its UNC's mistake, and all the better for the player for getting what he can, when he can get it. If he is worth it then he'll get paid now, and then paid for playing on Sundays. Can't fault the player for taking the money.
 
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