Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

[TwoElevenEastDaniel]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870613212317827077

Interesting player with that Corey Parker connection. Former Michigan commit, which is interesting and speaks either to high-end prospect pedigree or a misfire in the early eval. Either way, DL is a key spot and depth will matter.

 

[illinifan1987]

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[Oracle21]

I’m not sure if this is the proper place for it, but Derek Piper talked this week about JUCO players winning a lawsuit that will not allow their prior JUCO years to count against their D1 eligibility. Which Derek then said this would apply to other levels like Ben at NAIA. So in theory Ben could have 2 more years of eligibility based on the law decision,

Nothing the NCAA tries to mandate ever holds up in court. So what eventually will happen is that there will be no maximum eligibility years. It will simply be a rule that if you are enrolled in college, you are eligible to be part of the team. College basketball/football will eventually be a very well paid minor league of pro sports. And you could have some players staying in college and making money for 8-10 years. And if private equity were to somehow buy these college teams, I think you’d eventually treat these athletes like employees. Where they don’t even need to be an enrolled student, they are just an employee of the school and their job is to play basketball or football. I think that’s where this ends up.

 

[jmwillini]

Last Ball St. transfer had a 507 yard game. If this kid can do that, bonkers!!!

 

[Indy Illini Fan]

Is he still in play?

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[Oracle21]

Oh boy this is a new territory now……

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869547968388591657

This how this ends:

Step 1. Eligibility maximums are abolished. You can play as long as a team wants you as long as you are enrolled in classes. We will have a lot of “not good enough for the pros but still want to get paid” guys staying in college till they are 30.

Step 2. Eventually there will be no requirement for a player to be enrolled in college. They will simply be employees of the college and their job is playing on the basketball or football team

Would you still be an Illinois fan if none of the players were even students? I think I still would. Illinois would basically be its own pro franchise. Every college would be

 

[Oracle21]

Got a WR

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870534829093408781

This guy is clearly a smart business man. He had 4 pretty good games, then quit on the season to retain his eligibility and get paid for another year from a much bigger program.

 

[WyattEarp]

This how this ends:

Step 1. Eligibility maximums are abolished. You can play as long as a team wants you as long as you are enrolled in classes. We will have a lot of “not good enough for the pros but still want to get paid” guys staying in college till they are 30.

Step 2. Eventually there will be no requirement for a player to be enrolled in college. They will simply be employees of the college and their job is playing on the basketball or football team

Would you still be an Illinois fan if none of the players were even students? I think I still would. Illinois would basically be its own pro franchise. Every college would be

Name checks out.

 

[Snoopy]

Where they don’t even need to be an enrolled student, they are just an employee of the school and their job is to play basketball or football. I think that’s where this ends up.

Think the big boys will at some point step in and oust the NCAA from at least for football and basketball. There is way too much money involved to let mens football and basketball implode, but the NCAA can't be ousted until things are really dire. The NBA and NFL really need the college game as neither wants to be dealing with high school kids. Congress can give anti-trust exemptions and the B1G and SEC working with the TV networks have almost consolidated enough power to dictate to the NCAA what a new world looks like. Think the real issue is going to be who ends up managing the non-revenue sports.

 

[SescIllini]

This how this ends:

Step 1. Eligibility maximums are abolished. You can play as long as a team wants you as long as you are enrolled in classes. We will have a lot of “not good enough for the pros but still want to get paid” guys staying in college till they are 30.

Step 2. Eventually there will be no requirement for a player to be enrolled in college. They will simply be employees of the college and their job is playing on the basketball or football team

Would you still be an Illinois fan if none of the players were even students? I think I still would. Illinois would basically be its own pro franchise. Every college would be

I think both steps would be crap and cause loss of interest. Need to make room for next group of HS players.

Heard about just going to a blanket 5 years of eligibility. Reduce the use of redshirting.

Having these guys not be students would be like having a CBA team in your town. Bad idea.

 

[GatorMcKlusky]

This how this ends:

Step 1. Eligibility maximums are abolished. You can play as long as a team wants you as long as you are enrolled in classes. We will have a lot of “not good enough for the pros but still want to get paid” guys staying in college till they are 30.

Step 2. Eventually there will be no requirement for a player to be enrolled in college. They will simply be employees of the college and their job is playing on the basketball or football team

Would you still be an Illinois fan if none of the players were even students? I think I still would. Illinois would basically be its own pro franchise. Every college would be

If you're right, then an unintended consequence would probably be a new NFL minor league for high school grads. Colleges would no longer be the feeder system into the pros.

 

[Joel Goodson]

This how this ends:

Step 1. Eligibility maximums are abolished. You can play as long as a team wants you as long as you are enrolled in classes. We will have a lot of “not good enough for the pros but still want to get paid” guys staying in college till they are 30.

Step 2. Eventually there will be no requirement for a player to be enrolled in college. They will simply be employees of the college and their job is playing on the basketball or football team

Would you still be an Illinois fan if none of the players were even students? I think I still would. Illinois would basically be its own pro franchise. Every college would be

that's some Grizzly-level dystopia. throwin' down the gauntlet?

 

[therealmiket86]

I think both steps would be crap and cause loss of interest. Need to make room for next group of HS players.

Heard about just going to a blanket 5 years of eligibility. Reduce the use of redshirting.

Having these guys not be students would be like having a CBA team in your town. Bad idea.

Brett has been pushing for 5 years or eligibility for awhile. Better chance of them increasing the games you can play. Increase it to 6 games or if a player only plays on special teams they don’t burn their redshirt.

 

[Mr. Tibbs]

This guy is clearly a smart business man. He had 4 pretty good games, then quit on the season to retain his eligibility and get paid for another year from a much bigger program.

“quit” on the season is kinda harsh when it was the last two games & they were meaningless as the team was 3-7 after 10 games .

 

[therealmiket86]

“quit” on the season is kinda harsh when it was the last two games & they were meaningless as the team was 3-7 after 10 games .

He made a smart business decision. Having 2 seasons of eligibility makes him a lot more valuable.

 

[Joel Goodson]

“quit” on the season is kinda harsh when it was the last two games & they were meaningless as the team was 3-7 after 10 games .

He made a smart business decision. Having 2 seasons of eligibility makes him a lot more valuable.

indeed. imagine someone looking after one's self. smdh!

 

[therealmiket86]

With the juco ruling does JC Davis come back for another year.

 

[HensonHall71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870586755931603394

Would be a good get at a position of high need- after 2 years in a big ten weight program you have to think he’s ready physically- it does beg the question why we aren’t getting the highly productive smaller school DL or the high talent guys stuck behind an AA. We have 3 DL positions that are pretty wide open for playing time and was a glaring need last year- I would have thought we would be a great destination. Neal is a good start but need 2 more guys along the line for the rotation

It might also speak to the $ you have to pay this year to get anyone of value given it’s such a sellers market

 

[Mr. Tibbs]

This changes things for him -- you would certainly think he would need to give that serious thought.
He could quite possibly earn his way into First Team All Big Ten status and into a day two pick in the 2026 Draft - Im not sure where he is projected right now.

 

[mhuml32]

With the juco ruling does JC Davis come back for another year.

 

[BretMyBeachHouse]

I think the much more likely and better route is just to limit eligibility based on age. No one starts a season unless they're 23 or younger. Just makes it straightforward, really helps on the safety angle, and is fair. Give them five or six years if they want.

 

[DERV64]

I think the much more likely and better route is just to limit eligibility based on age. No one starts a season unless they're 23 or younger. Just makes it straightforward, really helps on the safety angle, and is fair. Give them five or six years if they want.

Safety? I mean maybe safety for the old guys. I'm 35 and still playing football for some reason, these 20 year olds are far more explosive and dangerous than us old dudes trying to hold onto the glory days lol

 

[aaeismacgychel]

I think the much more likely and better route is just to limit eligibility based on age. No one starts a season unless they're 23 or younger. Just makes it straightforward, really helps on the safety angle, and is fair. Give them five or six years if they want.

Gut feel is that would be struck down in court as well as it would be restricting financial opportunity based on age. Instead I would opt to go with a flat 48 game cap, where a game counts as one where you are suited up for and made available to play that game, and conference championship and postseason games don't count towards the cap. And once you reach 48 games that you've suited up for, you get to finish the season but you get no more seasons of eligibility.

That way, in theory, a player will get to have the opportunity to play for 4 full seasons. As such, redshirt and eligibility decisions disappear in most cases. It'll be up to coaches to more actively balance who they're dressing as their reserve players on any given gameday and submit the formal list of dressed players.

Will there be shenanigans where a player with say 47 caps decides to sit out their final 2 games so they get one more year? Sure, but that's up to them and their coach.

 

[and 69 others]

indeed. imagine someone looking after one's self. smdh!

I’m confused by one thing. He only played 4 games his freshman year, so why isn’t that considered his redshirt year. I am missing why he shut it down after 4 games this past season.

 

[rtbritt]

I’m confused by one thing. He only played 4 games his freshman year, so why isn’t that considered his redshirt year. I am missing why he shut it down after 4 games this past season.

Was the rule the same when he was a freshman? I know the 4 game rule is relatively new, but I don't know if its that new...or if it counts retroactively.