Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Beliema also said he will have discussions with existing players who may not be progressing. More spots will open.

We were discussing late summer that this offseason has the potential to be the biggest roster turnover under Bielema. Big class coming in. Roster was built to win this season. Going to be more open jobs this spring than normal. Players will realize in December that they are long shots at best for the openings. People will connect the dots.
 
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We’re gonna take 4 transfer OL
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We were discussing late summer that this offseason has the potential to be the biggest roster turnover under Bielema. Big class coming in. Roster was built to win this season. Going to be more open jobs this spring than normal. Players will realize in December that they are long shots at best for the openings. People will connect the dots.
1 portal window hurts
 
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Does Illinois have 2027 OT Junior Saunders (Woodberry Forest, VA) on their interest list?
 
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Didn’t want to post anything about this until today…so here you go.

Big rankings bump for Hankins...😎


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big is an understatement. 88 to 93, woowee! not sure I've ever seen that large of a jump, near signing day, anyway
 
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Shouldn’t the analysis of coaching staffs affect a rating? Isn’t it a data point? For instance, if Illinois gave a scholarship to a two star or low 3 star shouldn’t his rating increase because Bret is better at evaluating talent compared to whoever else is giving the rating?
 
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Shouldn’t the analysis of coaching staffs affect a rating? Isn’t it a data point? For instance, if Illinois gave a scholarship to a two star or low 3 star shouldn’t his rating increase because Bret is better at evaluating talent compared to whoever else is giving the rating?

Yes, but most of the data points suggested a mid-major player. Then, UM accepts a legacy recruit, and all of a sudden, he's a 4 star. The rest of the coaching staff data points don't align
 
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Yes, but most of the data points suggested a mid-major player. Then, UM accepts a legacy recruit, and all of a sudden, he's a 4 star. The rest of the coaching staff data points don't align
I was speaking in generalities. I wasn’t aware of the specific facts. My comment obviously wouldn’t apply in this situation.
 
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Shouldn’t the analysis of coaching staffs affect a rating? Isn’t it a data point? For instance, if Illinois gave a scholarship to a two star or low 3 star shouldn’t his rating increase because Bret is better at evaluating talent compared to whoever else is giving the rating?
Yeah, here are my thoughts:

1. The blue blood bump is real. Robert has written extensively about it. Recruiting services absolutely bucket recruits into certain ratings based on who they commit to.

2. At the same time, that’s not necessarily a bad thing?

Even if they scouted every high school football player (and there’s a lot of them), they’ll still have misses.

Why not rely on Ryan Day’s analysts to do the scouting for you? They’re probably better at it than you are anyways.

They’ll have misses too, of course, but that comes with the territory of ranking high school kids who weigh half of what their playing weight will be in 4-5 years.

And if you look at the 247 talent composite rankings, they’ve done a pretty good job:


There’s some misses in there for sure. Clemson isn’t 5-5 if they actually have (7) 5 stars and (40) 4 stars (we have 0 & 7 for context).

I think where it gets really inaccurate is when you’re looking at up and coming programs like Illinois and Indiana. With our histories, our recruits are auto-slotted into a lower ranking than ~Clemson (or whoever), and it doesn’t accurately describe the level of recruits these two programs are bringing in.

(Illinois is #64 in the talent composite rankings, but #23 in SP+. Indiana is #72 in the talent rankings, but #2 in SP+).

That said, while you’ll have anomalies in any ranking system, they’re still fairly accurate, while doing a fraction of the work they used to.
 
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Good to see the bump for Hankins and Eberhart. Rankin had a pretty significant drop: https://247sports.com/playersport/n...ark-316828/recruitrankhistory/?history=top247

I'm pretty sure none of this means anything at all, and I'm still excited to have all three of them (and the rest of the class) on board. In taking a quick looks, it appears 247's ratings are getting closer to the composite. 247 had Hankins and Eberhart lower than everyone else and Rankin higher than everyone else.
 
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We are #23 because of one player. If you take Luke off this team 64 isn’t too far off.
 
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