Illinois Golf 2023-24

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Illini2010-11

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Illinoise said:
Any discussion of changing the method of declaring a champion in any sport has to start and end with soccer. Idiotic penalty kicks, taken 10 feet from the goalie, must be fixed before I can worry about anything else.
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100% disagree with this entire paragraph. In nearly every level of soccer, there are two 10-15 minute halves of overtime in playoffs. 110-120 minutes of running is enough, and you can clearly see the level of play tank near the very end of ot.
 
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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
FlyNavy
In the last coaches poll, Auburn was voted as #1 and received 18 of 20 first place votes. The same Auburn team prevailed in match play to win the national championship.

While I agree that there can be improvements to the match play format, it's very hard to argue for change in a year where the top team in the nation wins the title. That only validates the format for much of the sport.
 
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vikings001

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FlyNavy said:
In the last coaches poll, Auburn was voted as #1 and received 18 of 20 first place votes. The same Auburn team prevailed in match play to win the national championship.

While I agree that there can be improvements to the match play format, it's very hard to argue for change in a year where the top team in the nation wins the title. That only validates the format for much of the sport.
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They weren’t the top team at the championships though far from it. Top team in golf is hard generally they just go off stroke play tournaments, stroke play not match play and SOS. Also I could be wrong but normally match play is won by a team ranked in the 3-8 range coming in not 1.
 
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Illinoise

Illinoise
Illinoise
How about moving the kick back at least so it takes a great strike to score a goal. Placing the ball so close that the goalie just has to guess is so mind numbing to me. Wrong thread I know but this is so confusing to me. I am not a big soccer fan, far from it, but wouldn’t it be infinitely more entertaining to move the dot farther from the goal for overtime penalties?
 
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skyIdub

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Winged Warrior
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SnakePlissken said:
To summarize, Loyalty respectfully submits the following proposed changes to the NCAA:

1. If Illinois is leading at the conclusion of stroke play, Illinois is declared the national champion and match play is strictly an exhibition.
2. If Illinois finishes stroke play in positions 2-7, match play determines the national champion, but we're generally good with the stroke play leader getting a bye to the semis.
3. If Illinois finishes stroke play in 8th, we revert to the current format.
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Hahahah! Love it! But this is the "Illinois fans are emotional/angry" about this tournament...and we can go 'round and 'round...but...

Illinois' team was better than Auburn's team by 27...TWENTYSEVEN....strokes over four days.

Illinois lost 3...individual...matches in one morning...Auburn won 3. Illinois goes home...Auburn moves on.

I'll let everyone decide for themselves which argument is logical, and which is emotional.
 
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Fan Since '70

Fan Since '70
OBS, Florida
Fan Since '70
Wish NCAA golf awarded best scores in 72 hole play for individuals and teams and discarded artificial match play, run championship like pro golf tournaments.
 
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Battle89

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Illini2010-11 said:
100% disagree with this entire paragraph. In nearly every level of soccer, there are two 10-15 minute halves of overtime in playoffs. 110-120 minutes of running is enough, and you can clearly see the level of play tank near the very end of ot.
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Then bring back sudden death. First OT goal wins - no more we-score-they-score in OT. PKs to decide a champion are awful and should be a last resort.
 
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2X2L

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Metaluna
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Herendeen, Goecke and Voois awarded plaques for finishing in top 15 after stroke play, I think. Great for them. Well done. But Illinois as a team gets nada for demolishing the field in stroke play just like a real golf tournament. Something terribly wrong. That's it, I'll let it go. Forward, ho.
 
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TheGMan

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skyIdub said:
Hahahah! Love it! But this is the "Illinois fans are emotional/angry" about this tournament...and we can go 'round and 'round...but...

Illinois' team was better than Auburn's team by 27...TWENTYSEVEN....strokes over four days.

Illinois lost 3...individual...matches in one morning...Auburn won 3. Illinois goes home...Auburn moves on.

I'll let everyone decide for themselves which argument is logical, and which is emotional.
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I mean, logically, if the goal is to determine the best team in college golf, it shouldn't be decided by just one tournament.
 
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2X2L

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Metaluna
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Coach Small is playing in Illinois PGA Thompson Cup today at Ridge CC in Chicago, according to IPGA office person. Don't know if it's stroke or match play or both. Ha!
 
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2X2L

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Metaluna
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Match play. Small and former NIU golf coach John Cleary (now pro at Exmoor) are 2 up through 11 in one of the matches.
 
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Illinoise

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Illinoise
Are there no soccer fans that agree the penalty in sudden death are taken from a ridiculously close spot? I get it during the course of play since you are penalizing the team that committed the foul. Why not back it up in extra time?
 
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hoopsfan47

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Fan Since '70 said:
Wish NCAA golf awarded best scores in 72 hole play for individuals and teams and discarded artificial match play, run championship like pro golf tournaments.
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Yup, and my opinion is not sour grapes based on this season's outcome. Since becoming aware of the NCAA title, I have always preferred both individual and team titles to be awarded based upon match play. Having both played in the event on 3 occasions over 50 years ago as well as officiated another, the drama just lasts longer at match play and goofier things happen. The match play format upset me when it was introduced and I have seen no valid reason ever presented in its favor other than it fits TV.
 
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2X2L said:
Coach Small is playing in Illinois PGA Thompson Cup today at Ridge CC in Chicago, according to IPGA office person. Don't know if it's stroke or match play or both. Ha!
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This is a Ryder Cup type event matching two man teams from both the Illinois PGA Senior top players list with senior amateurs from the CDGA seniors list. No singles matches.
 
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brillinian

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I enjoy reading everyone's thoughts on this. Here's something to think about while discussing this and I'm looking forward to what everyone's opinions are. They crowned the individual champion based on STROKE play. But then switched to MATCH play to crown the team champion. Why? Why is one based off stroke play and the other off of match play? What other sport in college changes the format midway thru that sports NCAA championship? Obviously if Illinois wasn't involved, I probably wouldn't care one way or the other. But even then, it doesn't make sense that they change the way the tournament is ran midway....actually probably closer to 3/4 of the way considering regionals are all based on STROKE play. Thinking about that....why don't they change the format in the regionals 1/2 way thru and go to MATCH play to come up with the teams that advance to the championships?

Think if during the mens NCAA bball championships, after they get to the elite eight, NCAA says ok, nice job teams but now from here on out we're going to have match play, we'll have 5 games of one on one and ya have to win 3 to advance.
 
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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
FlyNavy
Monday is the final qualifier for the U.S. Open. Called the "longest day in golf", there are 10 qualifying sites where golfers will play 36 holes, hoping to grab the remaining 40 or so spots for the U.S. Open in Pinehurst (June 13-16). Among those competing will be Jackson Buchanan and Tyler Goecke- Tyler earned a spot through local qualifying, and Jackson earned an exemption since he is top 50 in the amateur rankings. Here's the list of current and former Illini looking to earn a spot in Pinehurst:

Link for live updates

Already in the field: Thomas Detry (top 60 exemption)
Failed to qualify at 5/20 qualifier: Michael Feagles

Cherry Hill Club, Ridgeway, Ontario: Adrien Dumont de Chassard
The Golf Club of Georga, Alpharetta, GA: Jackson Buchanan (a)
Duke University CC, Durham, NC: Brian Campbell
OSU Golf Club, Columbus, OH: Luke Guthrie, TJ Barger (a)
Springfield CC, Springfield, OH: Nick Hardy, Dylan Meyer, Tyler Goecke (a)

Best of luck to all Illini!
 
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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
FlyNavy
Shockey19 said:
Buchanan and Campbell both lead the field by 2 shots through their first 18
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Looks like Jackson is back! Also Dylan is currently T2 in his qualifier, one stroke back (top 4 make it in that one). Let's finish strong guys!
 
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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
FlyNavy
With an eagle-birdie start, Jackson is not letting up! Top 3 qualify for the U.S. Open, 4th and 5th will be alternates:

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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
FlyNavy
Currently in contention (all Illini are playing their second 18):
Jackson Buchanan (GA): 1st, -10 thru 9 (2 strokes above cutoff)
Brian Campbell (NC): 1st, -6 thru 13 (3 strokes above cutoff)
Dylan Meyer (Springfield OH): T4, -5 thru 7 (4 spots available, would be a 7-for-1 playoff as it stands)

Still has a shot:
Tyler Goecke (Springfield OH): T21, -1 thru 4 (4 strokes behind cutoff)

Not in contention (7+ strokes behind):
Nick Hardy, Luke Guthrie, TJ Barger. Also, ADC withdrew after a first round 79.
 
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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
FlyNavy
Eagle to start, eagle to finish. Jackson is now on top of the leaderboard in GA with play almost complete. Either way he is pretty much assured a spot in the U.S. Open!

Congrats also to Brian Campbell, who finished T2 and will grab one of the seven spots in NC. They will join Thomas Detry next week at Pinehurst.

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