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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April 2018)
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Ive watched him a number of times and was really impressed each time. He's one of the best big man athletes i've ever watched. He was beating athletic guards up and down the court. He's a great rebounder and shot blocker with a improving offensive game. I will give credit to Painter, it seemed like him or an assistant was at every game i went to this year.
April 25th it's set.
We're not done yet, but at this moment you'd have to put our class slightly behind last year's IMO.
DaMonte Williams does not get enough hype around here. If he learns to shoot at all that's a real building block.
You could argue the pieces fit better in this class though. Kane and Jones particularly.
I would agree based on ranking, but only because current ranks are incomplete. I don't expect Alan Griffin and Giorgi Bezhanishvili to remain unrated. I doubt Griffin will be overhyped late like Smith was, but I would not be at all surprised to see Alan in the top 175. Meanwhile, Bezhanishvili challenges Eboigbodin for coolest name on the team and likely winds up at least in the top 510. Of course, depending on who they add; 2018 could wind up a lot better, but I also think what they have right now will be slightly better based on final rankings.
Ayo Dosunmu 27
Tevian Jones 117
Samba Kane 279
Alan Griffin NR
Giorgi Bezhanishvili NR
Mark Smith 79
Trent Frazier 109
Da'Monte Williams 177
Greg Eboigbodin 510
Matic Vesel NR
Ayo Dosunmu 27
Tevian Jones 117
Samba Kane 279
Alan Griffin NR
Giorgi Bezhanishvili NR
Mark Smith 79
Trent Frazier 109
Da'Monte Williams 177
Greg Eboigbodin 510
Matic Vesel NR
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Ayo Dosunmu 27
Tevian Jones 117
Samba Kane 279
Alan Griffin NR
Giorgi Bezhanishvili NR
Mark Smith 79 - G
Trent Frazier 109 - G
Da'Monte Williams 177 - G
Greg Eboigbodin 510 - C
Matic Vesel NR - ?
IMO, this class as it stands is stronger WITHOUT adding anyone Elise, which we know will not be the case. Im not basing this on rankings, but position balance. We essentially brought in 3 guards, Ebo and MV were basically throw ins with huge ? marks and gravy if they could contribute, which gratefully Ebo did.
Unfortunately, Mark ended up being much less than his hype called for and we believed in.
Trent obviously exceeded expectations and DW probably fit expectations.
We had LB and Finke as bigs but Finke was not comfortable or physically capable of consistently filling that role on both ends. LB provided post scoring, which will be sorely missed, but also was simply undersized and not a rim protector.
Adding Kane and Giorgi is a huge must give early departures and hopefully the sum of them and Ebo are greater than MF, LB, Ebo were this year overall. Probably wont equal losing LB offensively. No comment on Matic until we know hes staying put.
Once we are finished with the class, IMO this years class on paper will be stronger and its not even close. Now the recruits have to deliver, which will determine how much stronger this class will end up being.
Tevian Jones 117
Samba Kane 279
Alan Griffin NR
Giorgi Bezhanishvili NR
Mark Smith 79 - G
Trent Frazier 109 - G
Da'Monte Williams 177 - G
Greg Eboigbodin 510 - C
Matic Vesel NR - ?
IMO, this class as it stands is stronger WITHOUT adding anyone Elise, which we know will not be the case. Im not basing this on rankings, but position balance. We essentially brought in 3 guards, Ebo and MV were basically throw ins with huge ? marks and gravy if they could contribute, which gratefully Ebo did.
Unfortunately, Mark ended up being much less than his hype called for and we believed in.
Trent obviously exceeded expectations and DW probably fit expectations.
We had LB and Finke as bigs but Finke was not comfortable or physically capable of consistently filling that role on both ends. LB provided post scoring, which will be sorely missed, but also was simply undersized and not a rim protector.
Adding Kane and Giorgi is a huge must give early departures and hopefully the sum of them and Ebo are greater than MF, LB, Ebo were this year overall. Probably wont equal losing LB offensively. No comment on Matic until we know hes staying put.
Once we are finished with the class, IMO this years class on paper will be stronger and its not even close. Now the recruits have to deliver, which will determine how much stronger this class will end up being.
Here are a few scouting videos on Andres Feliz. It includes clips showing both his strengths and weaknesses from many different angles. I highly recommend you watch them and you'll get a pretty good idea of what we are getting (if we get him).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBv8Tz3xiBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbW3tFfnqnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jRPsG8i5_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0kdU8uPoZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbS8-sD4MI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBv8Tz3xiBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbW3tFfnqnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jRPsG8i5_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0kdU8uPoZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbS8-sD4MI
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Wow. Glad we got him when we did! What a steal.
I don't know the ranking of the big kid from Loyola, but he was a steal. he has great footwork and ability to gain position in the post. I'd take one of those.
Feliz skills and clips remind me a little of Tony Parker.
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Michigan State is hosting 2018 Oak Hill forward Maurice Calloo for an unofficial visit today
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This is good news in the sense that it validates Calloo's standing as a legit prospect.
Yes, it's competition. But I'd rather be chasing kids who are seen as attractive by other strong programs than kids who have no other offers.
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One of the tnt crew called Kruetwig the most impactful freshmen in the tourney. Scored 15 in the championshp. What a steal.
There are a lot of factors as to why Underwood has averaged 10+ guys playing 20% of the game or more in his 5 seasons as head coach. It doesn't really matter what they are, just that it averages out to a 10 person rotation over the course of a season.
You think only 4 players are going to play 1-2 (Ayo, Da'Monte, Trent and presumably Feliz at this point). 80 minutes and you figure Trent will average 30, Ayo 25, and then Da'Monte and Feliz split 25. I think that probably works out.
Then you have Kipper at the 3 + 1 more but I don't think we'll see Kipper at the 3 very much unless the bigs are much better than expected. Even so, let's say it's Kipper and AJ getting 25 and 15 minutes.
So now you have the 4 and 5 positions and you need 80 minutes. Let's say Ebo can play 25 per game. Samba 15. You still need 40 more minutes out of?
I think you'll see Kipper playing quite a few minutes at this spot which means Tevian Jones will have to play more 3. So give him 10 minutes of 3. We still need 30 more minutes of game time... I think you can pencil in a shooter (Griffin) for at least 10 minutes per game and another big TBD that'll average 10+.
Now there will likely be an injury or two and could make the rotation as the season goes on a little shorter. Entering conference play injury free we will be playing 10-11 guys. We just don't have enough star power for a bunch of people to be eating up 30 minutes a game like the teams you keep citing.
I really like Da'Monte. Of course like basically every other Illini fan, I adored Franky Williams.
Da'Monte becoming a shooter has about the same likelihood of Jaylon Tate becoming a shooter. He was that bad from range last year. (Okay maybe not that bad for the WHOLE year but that bad for all but the last few games when he finally got a couple to drop)
I hope it happens but it is a bit unnerving how many people keep saying "we're sleeping on Da'Monte. He just needs to develop an outside shot." What he needs is to become a better decision-maker and learn how to finish at the rim. That's his game.
If he becomes a shooter, that's a total bonus because statistically speaking (his shot doesn't look bad) it is very unlikely he'd ever get much over 30%.
The only thing that would make sense if he is to suddenly become a great shooter is if somehow he had a lingering injury component that was somehow effecting his shooting percentages.
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DW shot 22% as a freshman.
Luther shot 29%. Luther ended up as a career 38% shooter but was 41% with over 7 attempts per game as a senior. That's pretty remarkable improvement. Especially considering he shot 34% with 5 attempts per game as a junior.
I doubt DW ever gets to the 38% career mark that Luther did considering Luther started with a better baseline and had 2 seasons over 40%.
I'm only beating this drum because it's more likely than not that DW's primary contributions will never be from beyond the 3 line despite what many keep suggesting.
He might have a decent year at some point but overall his game will never be a 3 point oriented offensive player. Te'Jon lucas-esque. JMO
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Am usually thinking the same. While I do not have a subscription to any of the premium boards. Cannot find where MSU has officially extended an offer? Guess we will know by Mon what they are thinking.
we arent great and IDing under radar Illinois talent
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The Ramey/Feliz situation will be interesting to see play out, but Hinson is the recruit that really excites me the most. Usually when I hear that a recruit is a football player, my mind immediately goes to "tough, physical player but probably struggles with his shot and ball handling". However with Hinson, his shot and ball handling seem to also be strengths. And considering that some of the Illini's biggest needs are size and toughness, plus considering how much BU likes skilled players, I think he'll be a great fit and thrive in this system should he choose to come to Illinois.
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This is just pure nonsense
SampsonRelpenk
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How about our very own Kenny Battle?? I'll take a redo
I thought KB transferred from NIU?
This! All of this. It is that same sort of toughness that the Davison kid from WI plays with.
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