Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April-June 2016)

Status
Not open for further replies.
#3,076      
illini80
TCTORNADO said:
^^^^^^^^^^^
This should be reposted at the start of each month.
Haha--not all offers are commitable.!!!
Click to expand...

While I believe this is very true, Groce was asked this point blank by Tate in a recent interview on WDWS and said all his offers were commitable. Not sure he could say otherwise publicly though.
 
#3,077      
TCTORNADO
illini80 said:
While I believe this is very true, Groce was asked this point blank by Tate in a recent interview on WDWS and said all his offers were commitable. Not sure he could say otherwise publicly though.
Click to expand...

All offers are probably commitable. Final step though is for staff to accept that commitment. That may be where the difference lies. Brian Snow once tweeted: it's a fairly simple process.

1. Schools make an offer to athlete
2. Athlete accepts the offer
3. School accepts the athlete's acceptance/commitment.

Might not have it word for word, but it is the concept.
 
#3,079      
Obelix
TCTORNADO said:
All offers are probably commitable. Final step though is for staff to accept that commitment. That may be where the difference lies. Brian Snow once tweeted: it's a fairly simple process.

1. Schools make an offer to athlete
2. Athlete accepts the offer
3. School accepts the athlete's acceptance/commitment.

Might not have it word for word, but it is the concept.
Click to expand...

It's more complicated than that. If it was that simple, you'd have a lot of occurrences of athletes accepting offers (#2) without the school accepting the commitment (#3). Yet, that very rarely happens, extremely rare.

I know a lot of athletes who have had offers without them being able accept (i.e., commit). There are a lot of contingencies on offers and not all offers are the same.
 
#3,080      
IllinoisFan733
Obelix said:
It's more complicated than that. If it was that simple, you'd have a lot of occurrences of athletes accepting offers (#2) without the school accepting the commitment (#3). Yet, that very rarely happens, extremely rare.

I know a lot of athletes who have had offers without them being able accept (i.e., commit). There are a lot of contingencies on offers and not all offers are the same.
Click to expand...

I'm guessing our offers to Tilmon and Goodwin are commit-able, right?
 
#3,081      
Obelix
IllinoisFan733 said:
I'm guessing our offers to Tilmon and Goodwin are commit-able, right?
Click to expand...

I did not mean these specific cases, my post had to do with multiple athletes/offers I have personally known over the years.

But as far as guessing on those two (pretty much our top priorities with realistic chances), of course. If Pickett can commit, so can Goodwin and Tilmon. It is when schools move from their top targets and top recruits that things get more complicated.
 
#3,082      
IllinoisFan733
Obelix said:
I did not mean these specific cases, my post had to do with multiple athletes/offers I have personally known over the years.

But as far as guessing on those two (pretty much our top priorities with realistic chances), of course. If Pickett can commit, so can Goodwin and Tilmon. It is when schools move from their top targets and top recruits that things get more complicated.
Click to expand...

I should of included an Emoticon in my post. :eek: I do know what you were getting at.

Lots of schools going after a limited amount of players. Every school would like to get Top 50 players, but there are only so many of them and most of those players don't sign early.
 
#3,083      
Newman
Obelix said:
I did not mean these specific cases, my post had to do with multiple athletes/offers I have personally known over the years.

But as far as guessing on those two (pretty much our top priorities with realistic chances), of course. If Pickett can commit, so can Goodwin and Tilmon. It is when schools move from their top targets and top recruits that things get more complicated.
Click to expand...

I swear I saw an article at least a couple months ago where one of our targets talked about his offer and what the coaching staff said he needed to do to make it at this level. I took that as an offer that wasn't committable on the spot but would be eventually as long as the student reached certain milestones.
 
#3,084      
Obelix
Newman said:
I swear I saw an article at least a couple months ago where one of our targets talked about his offer and what the coaching staff said he needed to do to make it at this level. I took that as an offer that wasn't committable on the spot but would be eventually as long as the student reached certain milestones.
Click to expand...

Yeah, and it difficult to know the details and contingencies of specific offers, unless within the coaching staff or very close to the athlete (e.g., family, coaches, AAU program, etc.).

People ask "what good is an offer if it is not commitable on the spot?" Well, it does help both sides. Offers help recruits and HS/AAU programs, they boost their status, image, perception. They also help college programs show options, recruiting activity, even put some pressure on other recruits.

It is not that college coaches give offers (even with contingencies) to players they have no interest whatsoever. They don't, but there is the element of goodwill/marketing on many of them.

There can be many contingencies, priorities, timing, academics, milestones, etc. Sometimes the contingencies are such that an athlete, his family, or his coaches can easily see that "this is not going to happen." Yet, they are more than glad to get these offers. It does help them.
 
#3,085      
IlliniBrave75
UIHoopsRecruits retweeted

10h10 hours ago
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10
Xavier, Illinois, Louisville, Michigan State Indiana remain in the hunt for a top-50 guard http://buff.ly/28NpgH1

Scruggs said he’s being recruited by Xavier, Illinois, Louisville, Michigan State and Indiana. He’s been on the campus of Louisville and is trying to set up a visit Illinois. As we approach the final recruiting period to the summer, Scruggs said there isn’t a frontrunner right now.

First is education. Is their education top notch and if they have a business and management part in their school,” Scruggs said. Then basketball come into play. “(Do) they let their guards go?”

http://www.hoopseen.com/news/player...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
Last edited:
#3,086      
FatGreg
IlliniBrave75 said:
UIHoopsRecruits retweeted

10h10 hours ago
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10
Xavier, Illinois, Louisville, Michigan State Indiana remain in the hunt for a top-50 guard http://buff.ly/28NpgH1

Scruggs said he’s being recruited by Xavier, Illinois, Louisville, Michigan State and Indiana. He’s been on the campus of Louisville and is trying to set up a visit Illinois. As we approach the final recruiting period to the summer, Scruggs said there isn’t a frontrunner right now.

First is education. Is their education top notch and if they have a business and management part in their school,” Scruggs said. Then basketball come into play. “(Do) they let their guards go?”

http://www.hoopseen.com/news/player...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Click to expand...

Not an official top 5, but good news nonetheless. I honestly can't imagine him going anywhere but IU or MSU, but if he somehow ended up here it could turn this ship around in a hurry. A backcourt rotation of Scruggs, JCL, either of Goodwin/Eastern, Lucas, Da'Monte, and Jordan would be absolutely vicious. Daydreaming :cool:
 
#3,087      
TCTORNADO
FatGreg said:
Not an official top 5, but good news nonetheless. I honestly can't imagine him going anywhere but IU or MSU, but if he somehow ended up here it could turn this ship around in a hurry. A backcourt rotation of Scruggs, JCL, either of Goodwin/Eastern, Lucas, Da'Monte, and Jordan would be absolutely vicious. Daydreaming :cool:
Click to expand...

You might be surprised.:)
 
#3,091      
Illiniguy13
IlliniBrave75 said:
UIHoopsRecruits retweeted

10h10 hours ago
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10
Xavier, Illinois, Louisville, Michigan State Indiana remain in the hunt for a top-50 guard http://buff.ly/28NpgH1

Scruggs said he’s being recruited by Xavier, Illinois, Louisville, Michigan State and Indiana. He’s been on the campus of Louisville and is trying to set up a visit Illinois. As we approach the final recruiting period to the summer, Scruggs said there isn’t a frontrunner right now.

First is education. Is their education top notch and if they have a business and management part in their school,” Scruggs said. Then basketball come into play. “(Do) they let their guards go?”

http://www.hoopseen.com/news/player...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Click to expand...


I remember Groce really charmed JCL with his focus on education in his pitch. If he and Dee bring their A-game on Scruggs visit, he might be within reach. Just maybe.
 
#3,092      
Joel Goodson
#3,093      
Deleted member 10676
Joel Goodson said:
The Kitties are seriously recruiting Goodwin, but I'll believe they're at the top of his list when he commits to them. Not gonna happen.
Click to expand...

If we do lose him, I sure hope it isn't to Northwestern. I think I'd just ignore this board for a month or so.
 
#3,096      
IlliniBrave75
Jeremy Werner Retweeted
Lindblom Basketball ‏@basketball_lmsa 26m26 minutes ago
6'10 PF Isa Maguire (2018) on campus at Illinois today! @teamyandrpic.twitter.com/kwDGsDZcjG

ClqaHkkVAAAr66S.jpg






1:32 PM - 23 Jun 2016 · Details
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back