I wouldn't call Tilmon raw. He's not a lock to be a 1 and done, but he's far from raw. He has post moves, good feet, and a good jumper.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April-June 2016)
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I wouldn't call Tilmon raw. He's not a lock to be a 1 and done, but he's far from raw. He has post moves, good feet, and a good jumper.
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Mac Irvin Fire @TheMacIrvinFire 13m13 minutes ago Illinois HC John Groce and Paris Parham was in to see 2017 Explosive F Christian Negron today.
His post moves aren't quite that good yet and he fades away way too much for a guy his size. I've only watched a handful of La Lu games this year but I didn't notice enough consistency for him to not be labeled as raw, just my opinion though.
Tilmon is miles ahead of where Meyers was in terms of basketball skills. He is substantially less athletic however. I think his ranking is appropriate based on similar bigs in prior years. He is a talented kid that a year in a college strength and conditioning program mixed with some advanced coaching will do absolute wonders. It isn't out of the question for him to be 1st team all B1G his soph year
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Pro Skills (TX) G Jarrett Culver picks up offers from Arkansas Little-Rock, OK State, Texas Tech, Texas A&M & Illinois. After one session.
https://twitter.com/D1Circuit/status/722275738360029184
Here's a link to Culver's stats from the 1st EYBL session: https://t.co/6tgfquzZTE
https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/status/722280598409244672
https://twitter.com/D1Circuit/status/722275738360029184
Here's a link to Culver's stats from the 1st EYBL session: https://t.co/6tgfquzZTE
https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/status/722280598409244672
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http://247sports.com/Bolt/Ohio-State-to-visit-2017-four-star-44889289
Andrew Slater @ASlater247 Andrew Slater Retweeted Jerry Meyer
Wisconsin is about to offer Nojel Eastern of @nikemeanstreets
Andrew Slater @ASlater247 Andrew Slater Retweeted Jerry Meyer
Wisconsin is about to offer Nojel Eastern of @nikemeanstreets
I won't say dream class, because that would include Bowen and others, but if we are going with an "ideal class" as it stands right now, I'd want the following:
PG: DaMonte
SG: Pickett, Goodwin
SF: Lewis
PF:Culver
C: Tilmon
I really like Trent Frazier so if we couldn't get Goodwin or Lewis, he'd be my next pick.
PG: DaMonte
SG: Pickett, Goodwin
SF: Lewis
PF:Culver
C: Tilmon
I really like Trent Frazier so if we couldn't get Goodwin or Lewis, he'd be my next pick.
Captain Bubbles
- Fairfield, IL
If I'm John Groce, I would take a look at these two basketball players, and perhaps offer them a scholarship. They're not far from Champaign, just to the south actually.
First off, this is Mt. Carmel, Illinois. Not the Mount Carmel school in Chicago where Abrams and Austin came from. Carpenter is a solid player who has upped his game and I've seen him play. Versatile wing, but can play the post. Purdue has shown interest in him from what I've heard. He plays alongside with Jackson Marcotte who is also one of the best players in southern Illinois and the Tri-State (Groce needs to look at him too). Mt. Carmel is in the Big 8 Conference, the same conference that Washington is in which is where Cody, Tyler, and Luke Zeller went to during their high school careers.
I've heard nothing but good things about Nunge. This tweet caught my eye. Because Illinois needs bigs, why not look into Nunge and if he looks good, give him an offer. Castle is also the same high school where Blake Simmons came from. Blake is the son of University of Evansville Head Coach Marty Simmons and is currently on the team. Castle has a solid basketball tradition.
I hope we have the last visit with Tilmon and he commits shortly after. I feel good about our PG/SG/WF for that class. I think Pickett is still under the radar. I think we will get another combo guard (Frazier) or WF (Goodwin, Lewis). Would like at least two bigs in that class. Hoping one is Tilmon and another big (Negron, Culver, "the field).
IllinoisFan733
- Chicago
Not sure why Tilmon would want to go to Kansas, TBH. Cheick Diallo averaged with 4.5 minutes over the last 11 games. Bragg had a little more action... he averaged 9.1 minutes. Diallo was the #5 recruit in the country... Bragg was 24th. Big Cliff had the same issue last year.
Tilmon will be behind Bragg and Azubuike to start with.
Come to Illinois... you'll be at 25 minutes a game and get to show your wares against the B10 conference.
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Being on a team that will contend for a national championship, playing in a program that puts players into the NBA, committing to a coach that will be there when you get on campus, great facilities. Do you need more reasons for why these kids pick Kansas over Illinois? I'm amazed people bring this up every time we recruit a kid that is recruited by Kansas.
I can see why recruits pick Kansas, or any other blue blood, over Illinois, but in this case it might not be the best fit. Kansas has a true center that isn't a one and done coming in the 2016 class, and is the favorite to land DeAndre Ayton in 2017. Tilmon is their backup plan. I'd be more worried about UNC because their recruiting has been hurting.
http://247sports.com/Player/Jarrett-Culver-88127
Offered that guy according to Eric Bossier twitter. Second rather weird offer in as many days.
Offered that guy according to Eric Bossier twitter. Second rather weird offer in as many days.
Yep. If Tilmon stays 2-3 years anywhere, he's gonna be a top 10 pick. But if that place is Kansas, he will have developed a lot. Guards don't develop too much under self, but 4/5's do.
The staff isn't going to put all their eggs in one basket. If there are other players out there that they think are worth going after, there is no reason not to go after them. Having options is a good thing.
My two cents. If we end up with Christian Negron, I will be bummed. He's so meh.
Sounds that way. If I'm Groce, Goodwin and Tilmon are still priorities which has been that way for awhile now. However, neither of them has committed to me.
Maybe they are just sticking to the recruiting process and evaluating their options before they decide to come here, but the point is, you don't want to be left empty handed. You don't want to strike out on Tilmon and Goodwin and then scramble to build a relationship with a way lesser known recruit. Plus, there are players that leap in rankings through AAU ball every year.
Forget it, he's rolling.
Perhaps a little push. Can't be left holding the bag. Push the Plan A guys a bit with other offers to kids they think are good enough to play, too.
Don't want another situation where you offer a top kid with no backup plan and end up with Jaylon Tate.
Did Bill Self "put" Cliff Alexander in the NBA? Or did he get there despite Self? By and large Kansas "puts" players in the NBA because they were great players when they got to Kansas. There's nothing magical about what Kansas does other than recruit better high school players than most places.
Shane Walsh
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- Cynthiana, Kentucky
An Animal House reference from the Ice Man. Nicely done... :thumb:
IllinoisFan733
- Chicago
That's what I was getting at. I don't think Self is developing these players any differently than other programs. Easy to "develop" a player that is a Top 5 National Recruit and a Top 3 PF/C prospect... However, blue bloods don't seem to get criticized when a player doesn't work out... look at Kentucky and Skal this year.
I look at the strides that Mav has made from his freshman year to the end of his junior year, and call that major development. I don't think you have to go to a blue-blood to develop into an NBA player... the NBA will find you if you have the talent and athleticism.
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