Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April-June 2016)

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PostersLastStand

Wayne County, IL
I saw the open recruiting period was this weekend, are any HS State Tournament still going or prep schools playing or will the Staff be doing in home visits?
 
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PostersLastStand

Wayne County, IL
Illini ranked 320/346 in rebound margin last year with a center.
I thought, if remember correctly, Morgan was supposed to be a shot blocking, rebounding machine when Coach was recruiting him. He made much progress at the end of this year, but he is not a machine. I can't believe were a better rebounding team than 26 other teams. Bring someone to teach it to drive it home. Any JC or HS prospect a monster on the boards?
 
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A more talented Marcus Griffin would be a program changer. I often think Marcus gets overlooked for many reasons (juco, injuries, talented roster, etc) but he was an absolute force down low, as good as any big man in the Big Ten this year.

He was a McDonald's All American.
 
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I thought, if remember correctly, Morgan was supposed to be a shot blocking, rebounding machine when Coach was recruiting him. He made much progress at the end of this year, but he is not a machine. I can't believe were a better rebounding team than 26 other teams. Bring someone to teach it to drive it home. Any JC or HS prospect a monster on the boards?

I don't remember Morgan being described that way as a recruit.

Add healthy Thorne, Black and even Abrams and our rebounding looks totally different.
 
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Eric 22

Madison, WI
I know we are worried about 2017 recruiting but please oh please tell me someone has seen Jordan McCabe from Kaukauna, WI in 2018 and Groce has him on the list. If Groce wants an uptempo ball handler at point, then he is it. I watched him in the Wisconsin state tourney and couldn't help want to see him distribute to the athletes and shooters we will have. Check him out on YouTube for film....could go nicely with Finke :)
 
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Well, you can't very well go strongly after CM until you know for sure if Thorne is out. And don't know how one can say the odds of getting a quality to even serviceable 5th yr big is "none".

I grant that it's not easy to nab one, but every year there are solid options, and after taking a quick glance, you see guys like Shonn Miller (UConn), Anton Grady (Wichita St.) and Damion Lee (Louisville) were excellent bigs for their teams last season. Plus as others have pointed out, 5th yrs have done rather well here when healthy, so I think the sales pitch can be rather good - play in the B1G, upperclassmen roster, immediate playing time, could be missing piece, yada, yada, yada...

But if Groce opts to go hard after CM and that recruitment drags out, then he pretty much guarantees no additional post help for next season.
Sit around and wait and you're guaranteed to walk away empty handed. This is not an "either/or" thing. There's plenty of room to do both and cya.
 
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Any idea if we have a connection to him?

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I have no idea I just know he would be a huge get and a good pg for us so you might as well go fm after him soon and hard and try to get him as fast as possible if you can. I imagine there will be a lot of schools going after him
 
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I guess that is why I said "Shaw like" fall. Not that he was the same talent level as Shaw.

Shaw really "should" of fell out of top 100 instead of just to the 60s. But I think evaluators were afraid to drop him that far and look bad for a previously evaluated top 10 talent.

Now I do think JT is MUCH better than Shaw. And like a few just said he does have a lot of upside. But I just do not see a top 30 type talent here. I would rank JT in the top 60 because of potential alone. But not top 30. Probably not even top 40?

And even if he was ranked #260...we still need a guy like him. :thumb:
 
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Agreed. There tends to be some stickiness on the downside in the ratings for (formerly) highly-ranked players. And Shaw was a perfect example of that. He had such short arms and a long neck that his standing reach was shorter than many 6'3 players. He was a poor outside shooter than liked to shoot outside. Yeah he was very good as a H.S. Freshman when he was bigger/stronger than most of the competition, but by his SR year he should have been nowhere near any top 100 ranking.
 
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Not sure if Shaw was a monumental bust or a product of the hype machine. I never got the sense that he loved basketball or it was his end all goal. Never produced much at Bradley.
 
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Smacko

Lexington, KY
Not sure if Shaw was a monumental bust or a product of the hype machine. I never got the sense that he loved basketball or it was his end all goal. Never produced much at Bradley.

It was a combination of the two. He got a lot of hype as a freshman and sophomore in HS but just didn't keep developing at that pace. He had some serious injury issues at Bradley as well.
 
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UofIChE06

Pittsburgh
I don't remember Morgan being described that way as a recruit.

Add healthy Thorne, Black and even Abrams and our rebounding looks totally different.

Morgan was always a more offensive talent. He is pretty solid offensively. Too bad he couldn't learn more about the other side of the court from Egwu.
 
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Well, you can't very well go strongly after CM until you know for sure if Thorne is out.

According to your argument you can't go after anyone, whether that is HS or transfer, so not sure why you would just single out CM. Furthermore, Groce was ready to oversign not only by one, but two players (Snider, Cliff) before even knowing of any openings. Hard to imagine that Groce is slowing down in recruiting, especially this spring when there are enhanced chances of scholarships opening up with so many players currently questionable. As far as timing, 5th and 6th NCAA decisions are usually decided in April so a decision on Thorne is forthcoming.

And don't know how one can say the odds of getting a quality to even serviceable 5th yr big is "none".

What was said was not that, but that "chances that we land another Thorne in the 5th year market are slim to none."

guys like Shonn Miller (UConn), Anton Grady (Wichita St.) and Damion Lee (Louisville) were excellent bigs for their teams last season.

Damion Lee was not a big, he is actually a guard, actually a SG/SF type both at Louisville and Drexel. And yes, I am probably one of the few who actually watched some of his games at CAA.

But if Groce opts to go hard after CM and that recruitment drags out, then he pretty much guarantees no additional post help for next season.

That goes for every player, HS or transfer, so not sure you single out CM. I do not think anyone has said to exclusively recruit CM, and if you read, "it may come down to the "quality" of a player you can land at the positions of need (PG and C)." If that player is CM (although per my post, I have no seen anything to indicate that Moore is currently interested in the Illini), then I am absolutely fine with that, CM could help.
 
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A more talented Marcus Griffin would be a program changer. I often think Marcus gets overlooked for many reasons (juco, injuries, talented roster, etc) but he was an absolute force down low, as good as any big man in the Big Ten this year.

Don't get me wrong, I would take a Marcus Griffin right now in a heartbeat. Tilmon has the talent to be a program changer but needs to match the talent with the motor. As it stands, he will need a surrounding cast to get the program turned around. Part of that cast is assembled.
 
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HC Illini

HC Illini
Henricksen recently wrote a great article about Goodwin. There was a lot of information from his dad in the article, including him saying, "he knows where I want him to go". Hopefully he's talking about the Orange and Blue!!
 
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