idk, felt like a classic homer fluff piece. We've had articles like that, too.
It's a matter of time before Snacks and his ilk swing by. I think we are correct to be wringing our hands, but not over Cuonzo, necessarily.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (January-February 2018)
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It's a matter of time before Snacks and his ilk swing by. I think we are correct to be wringing our hands, but not over Cuonzo, necessarily.
I didn't read anything unexpected or bad in there. Never spoke poorly of Illinois or particularly highly of Missouri. Never gave an indication that Missouri is a leader. Just that they are recruiting him, he's interested and that some people think if EJ goes there, Missouri will have an advantage with other STL talent. Big deal. Just a non-news feature article by the local paper.
Did you miss the fact that his parents talk regularly about what schools he likes, the fact that the Dad's grew up together, McKinney and him are lifetime friends, and that Martin "cares" about his kids and how they will do long term? He is also being told that Martin sees him has a position less player, sound familiar? Don't think that part is by accident.
True every coach will probably have a similar sales pitch, however, every other coach will not have an inside sales person (Liddell father). They are also expected to sign McKinney, this cannot bode well for us.
At the end of the day he will be at Missouri and the STL floodgates will go there as well.
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Did you miss the fact that his parents talk regularly about what schools he likes, the fact that the Dad's grew up together, McKinney and him are lifetime friends, and that Martin "cares" about his kids and how they will do long term? He is also being told that Martin sees him has a position less player, sound familiar? Don't think that part is by accident.
True every coach will probably have a similar sales pitch, however, every other coach will not have an inside sales person (Liddell father). They are also expected to sign McKinney, this cannot bode well for us.
At the end of the day he will be at Missouri and the STL floodgates will go there as well.
Yeah, I'm not feeling very good about this one.
Man, I'd love to snatch Ramey out of their backyard. That would at least in part ease the pain of losing Tilmon and Liddell to Mizzou. But good grief......why can't we land a big man?
Okoro becomes that much more important.
Soxfreak64
- Bloomington
This team is a solid grad transfer big and a 3&D guy away from the bubble IMO. If Ebo can develop into a solid rim protector, maybe better.
Did you miss the fact that his parents talk regularly about what schools he likes, the fact that the Dad's grew up together, McKinney and him are lifetime friends, and that Martin "cares" about his kids and how they will do long term? He is also being told that Martin sees him has a position less player, sound familiar? Don't think that part is by accident.
True every coach will probably have a similar sales pitch, however, every other coach will not have an inside sales person (Liddell father). They are also expected to sign McKinney, this cannot bode well for us.
At the end of the day he will be at Missouri and the STL floodgates will go there as well.
I think you missed that part of the article where his parents said they were letting him make his own decisions on his recruitment and that they had already been recruited themselves and that they wanted him to enjoy the process. Doesn't sound like his parents are selling him anything.
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The only solace I can take is the possibility Martin gets all this talent and they still don't win. At the same time Trent and Ayo get chips on both shoulders, carrying us to more success
Did you miss the fact that his parents talk regularly about what schools he likes, the fact that the Dad's grew up together, McKinney and him are lifetime friends, and that Martin "cares" about his kids and how they will do long term? He is also being told that Martin sees him has a position less player, sound familiar? Don't think that part is by accident.
True every coach will probably have a similar sales pitch, however, every other coach will not have an inside sales person (Liddell father). They are also expected to sign McKinney, this cannot bode well for us.
At the end of the day he will be at Missouri and the STL floodgates will go there as well.
I hope they talk regularly about the school he likes. Not sure how that favors anyone.
I wouldn't put too much stock in their fathers "growing up together" just because they are from the same area. They're not even the same age and Cuanzo's younger so it's not like Liddell SR. would have looked up to him as a kid. It's a nice story though.
I hope all coaches care about their kids and they will do long term. Not sure that favors anyone.
Both schools are pitching a position-less system. Not sure that favors anyone.
McKinney is the one advantage in Mizzou's favor that I took from this article and that's only if he signs.
Martin hasn't talked to Ramey in a long while. I don't know what happened, and even Ramey's father doesn't, but I don't think Martin is interested in him anymore. Either that or Ramey knows where he's going and just waiting. He may still like Louisville and is waiting to see if anything else happens with them.
Okay, fair enough, I didn't miss that part. But I also know that I don't believe for a second that a future Lottery Pick (Liddell) wont have his parents involved in his final say so. Either way he will not end up here imo.
It would be nice to have Courtney Ramey. It's always a good thing to upgrade your talent if you can do it without creating team chemistry issues. But we lost to Michigan State because we were out-rebounded 37-15. We lost to Ohio State because we were out-rebounded 45-22. We lost to Wisconsin because we were chewed up inside by a superior post player. In each case our point guard out-played theirs.
Courtney Ramey would be a nice luxury to have. But we're not getting anywhere until we get some inside strength. I keep seeing new offers to guards, but we need some beef and rim protectors worse.
Courtney Ramey would be a nice luxury to have. But we're not getting anywhere until we get some inside strength. I keep seeing new offers to guards, but we need some beef and rim protectors worse.
Okay, fair enough, I didn't miss that part. But I also know that I don't believe for a second that a future Lottery Pick (Liddell) wont have his parents involved in his final say so. Either way he will not end up here imo.
I agree, they should be. Anyone paying attention knows that Cuonzo can recruit, and probably coach D, but he hasn't the foggiest clue of how to coach offense.
Mr. & Mrs. Liddell, if you want your son to get better, send him to a place like Illinois where there's a coach who can improve your son's natural abilities. Plus with the guards we have, all we need is your son and young Mr. Okoro from Normal to put us back at the top of the B1G.
Soxfreak64
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There are a few different roster constructions that can work really well in college hoops.
One is traditionally balanced, w/ bigs and guards. This requires bigs that can rebound.
One is with four guards and a rim protector. This requires guards that can shoot.
We have one of each of those. I know Ayo is a middling shooter, and I don't know about Ramey, but if those guys can hit 35-40% in addition to Trent and Leron, we could win if Ebo develops defensively. Teams are just going to keep clogging the paint if we have one shooter on the entire team, and it won't matter how good our bigs are offensively.
I agree with the recruiting idea of the blue bloods that has been thrown out there, but it got me thinking about UNC because they don't seem to get the top 2-3 guys in classes as much. I checked the list of one and dones who have been drafted and it was no surprise that it went Kentucky (21), Duke (10), and Kansas/UCLA (8) at the top, but UNC has only had 2. They're behind powerhouses like GTech, LSU, UNLV and Washington.
Now, I'm obviously not saying they aren't blue bloods, because their results (historical and recent) speak for themselves, just interesting that they are going about it differently.
(This is any one and done who was drafted at any point in the draft)
Other schools with 5 or more are:
5 - Arizona, Washington
6- Ohio State, Texas
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Highly-athletic 2018 wing. Mac Irvin Fire product. Chin Coleman was out to see him on Wednesday. Has physical tools that simply don't exist on the current roster.
https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/962118085288357888
Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
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Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
I don’t even care if he’s a guard or doesn’t have much an offer list. He is a very good athlete and it’s getting so old watching team after team out-athlete us.
GortTheRobot
- North Bethesda, Maryland
This is where you tell the Irvin's to start paying back.
Yup, if you get his '019 top 75 brother (The Show) to decommit from Kansas and join him in C/U. That's how these things work. Who was our last brother combination??
If offer is commitable I think he accepts. Mac Irvin player likely has played with Damonte and Ayo. Chin ties to MF looks like a strong connection. Just think we need bigs.
Joel Goodson
- ties will be resolved
This means staff isn't feeling great about Jones.
Or Ramey?
IlliniForTheWin
- Georgia
brandon and darius paul?! brandon worked out great. Darius... not so much
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