Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (March 2017)

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IlliniFin86

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illinifan87 said:
But his reaction when Groce was let go was different than say; Williams & Tilmon.

Those 2 needed confirmation before reaffirming their commitment. Frazier didn't.

My point was, Frazier's comfort with the university was to a point where he felt comfortable staying with his commitment during the transition. Groce had a lot to do with that, but Frazier reacted differently.

There is no right or wrong way here. Each recruit has varying degrees of comfort with certain aspects of a program.

I'm not disagreeing with you. Just trying to read between the lines of Smith's decision making process. Which, I could be completely off about.
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Frazier also knew Underwood since he was being recruited when Underwood was at SFA.

That probably factored into Trent's rapid confirmation.
 
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Izzo officially offered Smith tonight, and Smith will be taking a visit to MSU's campus "in the coming weeks."
I live and work in East Lansing, and this is coming from one of my friend's who is on the MSU men's basketball staff.
Awful news, as I think MSU is his top choice now. Needless to say I'm bummed...
 
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Couldn't read it but there is a new article today on 247 Sports that Mark Smith is entertaining Kentucky.
 
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ballislife17

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Just went to an MSU forum to see what their thoughts on Smith were and came across this comment I found funny

"Not to demeen smith certainly, but a high end pg with that height would probably be a 5 star"

...they seem to know very little about Smith's switch from Baseball and view him as a wing player rated in the 100s
 
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ballislife17

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ndandrid said:
Izzo officially offered Smith tonight, and Smith will be taking a visit to MSU's campus "in the coming weeks."
I live and work in East Lansing, and this is coming from one of my friend's who is on the MSU men's basketball staff.
Awful news, as I think MSU is his top choice now. Needless to say I'm bummed...
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Not saying you're wrong, but that would be a pretty quick switch to a program who has been recruiting him for a couple of days. Definitely not doubting that the visit went well though
 
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IlliniCaboose

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In the entire history of coaches visiting players and players visiting schools I'm pretty sure Josh Brent's trip to Iowa was the only one that didn't get reported as going well.
 
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skyIdub

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If I was a potential five star pg that grew up loving the Illini, I would troll the bejeesus out of any other BIG program that came knocking. Even Izzo. But that's just me.
MSU gonna be an easy sell to Smith though.
 
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Franklin Delano Bluth

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jcgoldie said:
Dammit Ward why do you have to be so hard on the beaver?
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winthiscentury said:
Not to demean ANY student athlete, but this is kind of ridiculous what's going on with him. In one four months, he's gone from a baseball recruit at Missouri and a basketball recruit that was getting some regional interest......To this high profile guard that Kentucky, MSU and other high DI programs are putting full court press on to get a commitment from?

I think that sometimes these meteoric rises are overblown. I'm not a college scout by any means, but this smells of coaches searching high and low to find a diamond in the rough(especially Kentucky and MSU) late in the recruiting cycle for 2017. Call me a homer, but I really hope this kid stays true to himself, true to what he knows and doesn't have his judgement clouded by the Izzo's and Cal's of the world. It's a good way to end up buried on somebody's bench for two years, when he could have been getting early minutes at the schools he was initially looking at. Very common mistake to get lured by the big names....The Bluebloods. Then, you're stuck.
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He was named mr basketball in Illinois. He's pretty good.
 
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IlliniCaboose said:
In the entire history of coaches visiting players and players visiting schools I'm pretty sure Josh Brent's trip to Iowa was the only one that didn't get reported as going well.
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That's an interesting topic. I can think of a couple others off hand (allegedly). JCL @ Notre Dame. Justin Smith @ UI, I guess.

Any others?
 
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winthiscentury said:
I think that sometimes these meteoric rises are overblown. I'm not a college scout by any means, but this smells of coaches searching high and low to find a diamond in the rough(especially Kentucky and MSU) late in the recruiting cycle for 2017. Call me a homer, but I really hope this kid stays true to himself, true to what he knows and doesn't have his judgement clouded by the Izzo's and Cal's of the world. It's a good way to end up buried on somebody's bench for two years, when he could have been getting early minutes at the schools he was initially looking at. Very common mistake to get lured by the big names....The Bluebloods. Then, you're stuck.
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bolded-it's more commonly called recruiting. Everybody does it.

Underlined- Cloud his judgement? Why wouldn't he consider playing for a couple of the greatest coaches/most successful programs if given the chance? These two teams which, by the way, have been about 10000000x more successful than Illinois over the last 2/3 of his life.
 
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SescIllini

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miketherevelator said:
Check out this great photo.
https://twitter.com/GregShashack/status/846908142541664256
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Dane Fife screwed us with Cory Magette back in 1998. Duke wanted Fife over Magette and when Fife apparently changed his mind from Duke to Indiana very late in the game it set off a domino effect. Magette who all the experts had as an Illini surprised everybody with Duke. Krueger landed a very good lands with F Williams, Krupalija, Archibald, and Lucas. But he narrowly missed out on Magette and Bobby Simmons. Simmons was the bigger lost because he would of been a starter at the SF for 3 years especially during our on time as a top 5-10 team.
 
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Will be the first test of the Underwood era.....beating out Izzo and Martin for Smith. Got a feeling it won't end well at this point...
 
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mattcoldagelli

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IlliniCaboose said:
In the entire history of coaches visiting players and players visiting schools I'm pretty sure Josh Brent's trip to Iowa was the only one that didn't get reported as going well.
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Who was the kid that was visiting us and got eaten alive by Deron at open gym?
 
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greger said:
Will be the first test of the Underwood era.....beating out Izzo and Martin for Smith. Got a feeling it won't end well at this point...
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My only "feeling" is that I generally don't bet on one school (including us) against the field.

That said I'd love to get Smith. He and Frazier in Underwood's offense would kill it. But if we get all our existing signees, it's still a heck of a class.
 
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SescIllini

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greger said:
Will be the first test of the Underwood era.....beating out Izzo and Martin for Smith. Got a feeling it won't end well at this point...
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The one that concerns me most is MSU/Izzo. MSU I believe will be short (no pun intended) at the PG and G spot next season. But will have very talented bigs (Schilling, Ward, Bridges, J Jackson). There is a chance Bridges goes pro, and you can probably add Tuggs Bowen to that list of MSU players.


Indiana and Missouri are in more of a rebuild mode, not sure what will happen until after the MCAA game. But MSU has more structure in place. Illinois is more Guard and Wing heavy at this point, but has a very nice offense to run next season. I think it comes down to where he feels he fits in the best and comfort with program and university.
 
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SescIllini said:
The one that concerns me most is MSU/Izzo. MSU I believe will be short (no pun intended) at the PG and G spot next season. But will have very talented bigs (Schilling, Ward, Bridges, J Jackson). There is a chance Bridges goes pro, and you can probably add Tuggs Bowen to that list of MSU players.


Indiana and Missouri are in more of a rebuild mode, not sure what will happen until after the MCAA game. But MSU has more structure in place. Illinois is more Guard and Wing heavy at this point, but has a very nice offense to run next season. I think it comes down to where he feels he fits in the best and comfort with program and university.
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Smith already seems to me, to be the hometown kid doing BIG things. That said he has stated that he is enjoying the recruiting process, he already committed close to home once (baseball at Mizzou) and he has stated his strong like for ILLINI.

With all factors weighed and his family being able to get to games closer to home, which I think will mean quite abit....the offense and wants/wills make me believe the ILLINI get him?:chief:
 
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