He will be great compliment to Ayo and Jones.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (March 2018)
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He will be great compliment to Ayo and Jones.
Seaton Hall was rated for a number of weeks this year, so it's not all Little Sisters of the Poor.
With this wide of a net being cast out and only (1) scholly left, we would have to assume at least 1-2 will not be back (Lucas final interview reference?) right? If so we have 1-3 left open yet, so we can pursue the recent offers as well as Ramey and Jones still...
Finke and ? best guess....
Finke and ? best guess....
I would hate for any of our frosh (who played) to leave
Yeah, got it, you think you know more than Coach U does. Plus, not sure what Illinois for numerous past years has to do with a coach who's been around for less than a year. But everybody 's a critic these days.
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Before this becomes some pointless Bruce Weber debate, my point was that he made kids like Barry Brown and Dean Wade his priority rather than falling back on 3* kids because none of the 5* kids panned out.
Wade is averaging 16 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 assists a game, and shoots over 40% from three. You don't think a guy like that would have been far, far superior to Mike Shaw at Illinois? You don't think Illinois would have been a better team with more guys like Dean Wade, and fewer guys like Shaw and emergency gap-fillers like Charles Jackson?
Weber is who he is -- a guy who will finish middle-of-the-pack in this conference in most years. But he apparently has learned some lessons, and rather than waste his time on kids that he's never going to kid, he goes after kids that truly fit his style. His problem is that he doesn't have enough of them.
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No, recruiting has not been up to par. Period.
But when your priority targets have all gone somewhere else, are you supposed to sulk about it and just quit on the recruiting season? Or do you go out and find the next best player or best fit available and move on?
Underwood is doing the latter. We'll see how it pays off for us.
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Really hoping for this.
Complement, but yeah. Initially thought that taking Griffin meant Jones isn't happening. Really, really hoping that take was wrong.
Griffin most likely isn't going to play much his freshman year. Am absolutely fine with that.
You all calling this a plan C with Griffin are on something. He’s one of seven up for NY Mr. Basketball, 18.2 points, 10.1 rebounds, 4 assists, 2.4 steals, and 1.8 blocks a game. On a first place team. He’s lights out from 3. This is a huge get for Illinois and a piece we’ve been sorely missing this year.
Samba Kane and Vlad Manuel look pretty good to me. Both seem further ahead of Ebo as HS players. Difficult decisions ahead for BU. I think we need one young/hs big and a grad transfer big(Cunningham). Will need another young big in 2019(Okoro). I think Matic will contribute in the future, but need 3 quality bigs ahead of him IMHO. Iowa had 4 players taller than Black on the court the other day. I don't think we can continue to go after non-bigs unless we lose at least 2 transfers.
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Watched the Iona Stepinac highlights. Griffin has a nice shot, very skinny, not sure about his other skills, not very athletic. If he can develop a lot physically and become a lights out college shooter, he’ll be a good pickup. Just looked up Bryce Wills, the guy on Iona who dominated- he looks quite good, committed to Stanford, had offers from other great programs including Villanova, but surprisingly only a three star.
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The key is becoming a lights out college shooter. He'll have great opportunity, given how good we'll be at driving. Next is becoming a good defender. Going to take a lot of hard work, but it certainly looks like a very good fit (albeit, not instant impact).
Not knocking you at all, only myself here, but - I remember a year ago thinking that Trent Frazier could become a solid contributor/great player only after he’s had a year or two to develop physically.
From now on, thanks to Frazier, I’m never going to count “very skinny” against a guard prospect. Still applies to bigs obviously.
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I think "huge get" might be overstating it, but we desperately need shooters.
How similar is he to Aaron Jordan? Both are similar height, both lack plus athleticism, and both are outside shooting specialists. But AJ was a top-100 recruit, and look how long it took him to really contribute regularly.
Every situation is different, so I hope Griffin is ready to contribute early. But I don't think we should bank on that.
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Frazier has elite quickness. That’s a huge difference. Frazier is still very skinny but his quickness makes up for a lot. Can’t overstate importance of quickness. Steph Curry- not very strong, incredibly quick with and without the ball.
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Just watched the very few Kane clips. Showed a lot of progress from his CO to FL seasons. Has great height and length, good coordination and can really run. We could use a guy like that. Yes, please!
Finke and Matic would leave 3 schollies open and be able to give us a class of Ayo 5*, Griffin NR, Trice #1JC, Ramey 4-5*/Jones 4*, B1G to be names later (Kane)?
That would I believe most of our expectations for this class if not all of us. Are all legit chances, yes I think so...
Did anyone else listen to Alan’s interview on Tay and Carp? Really impressed me. He’s a shooter, defender, and a winner. He talks about playing his role to the best of his ability and doing what it takes to win. Love a coaches son.
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Finke and Matic would leave 3 schollies open and be able to give us a class of Ayo 5*, Griffin NR, Trice #1JC, Ramey 4-5*/Jones 4*, B1G to be names later (Kane)?
That would I believe most of our expectations for this class if not all of us. Are all legit chances, yes I think so...
Where is this speculation of a Finke transfer coming from? Though I would welcome it, doesn't make a whole lot of sense from his perspective.
AJ's shot release is much lower than Griffin's, so it's harder to get it off in a college game. Big question for me is belief in his shot. Does he think it's going in every time he shoots it? Frazier has that confidence and I hope Griffin does too.
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