I am a fan of building a good team and being realistic. I am seeing a bunch of guys at the same position. I agree that Ayo will go to a blue blood. They will have depth at the position, but they also will have multiple players leaving next year. I know Trevon Duval is gone & Quade Green might be after 1 year ( I doubt it, but its possible)
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can anyone tell me the name of the big guy from canada that we offered a scholarship to. He was a very high scorer, had close to 5o points in the highlight video on this site. Thanks for the help, just cant recall his name or if we are still recruiting him?
Looking at what your talking about, these are guys that had few shots because of the offense we were running and fact that % of attempts not factor ed in. I'M sure we will have ample of shots and shooters b4 we start B1G. Just because they haven't played any NCAA basketball, doesn't mean they moved the basket or changed 3pt line. Smith, Frazier, William, can shoot, and now TJL not rolling ball to half court, he will have a better chance of getting a shot.:thumb:
My post was in response to another who questioned whether or not we needed the shooting services of Tim Finke as they said that we had enough. I'm more than thrilled about BU's system and our current guys, but I feel like I'm in the majority here when I say that I'd always take more especially when so little is unknown.
Fine, but your logic is faulty. If players were averse to going somewhere with guys already at their likely position, no one would sign anywhere!
You act like we're just loaded with talent that will scare recruits away. A logical look at our roster says otherwise. I like our guys, but the only spot an '18 kid might be worried about getting PT would be PG where we probably return Smith and Lucas, plus Frazier and DMWilliams ("combo guards"). And possibly by spillover, the SG spot. Of course a guy of Ayo's talent wouldn't worry about any of those guys. He'd likely be more concerned with the lack of a dominant player on our frontline.
Every fricking team in the country has players returning. I jokingly question your fan-ship because you're grasping for a ridiculous reason why a player shouldn't sign with us.
I hoped that he would commit on his visit. You want as much talent as possible. I just don't know if George in particular would come. He is not yet the type of player that will sign and it not matter who is in front of him(Ayo). Do you see any freshman that is not a high 4 or 5 star big getting solid playing time with 4 or 5 players ahead of him? For example one of the players I wanted real bad was Paul Scruggs. I felt like he would be a solid recruit. Where would he play on this team? Competition is great, but the sheer amount of bodies makes some people sign elsewhere.
Dee shot .434 and Luther shot .410 from 3 pt with more than half their shots from 3 pt in 2004-5 Elite shooting to me.
Wait a sec. What's your cutoff for an elite shooter? Or any examples of elite shooters in the NCAA?
I am optimistically projecting that these freshman bigs develop with the playing time that will be there for them. But you are correct, a recruit shouldn't be worried about that, but they do.
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This is really a silly argument. You are trying to say we have too much talent to recruit talented players? C'mon man... thats what it means to build a good basketball team.
Was that the highlight video where the featured prospect scored 50 points on 25 of 25 shooting?
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At least at the moment seems like he will stick as a class of 2018 vs reclassing to 2017 but it is still early, been quiet overall for him.
I think you're really overestimating our existing talent. Finke and Black would have just one year overlapping with George's FR year. And that's IF they decide to come back for their 5th years, which lots of kids don't do these days. Other than them, you've got two guys that we were basically their only major offer (not saying that can't end up good). That's about as favorable of a PF/C depth chart as you're going to find. If our coaching staff can't sell a kid on that, they're not going to be here long (I don't think that's the case).
By your logic, we should not be capable of adding anyone unless we have next to no one at their position. Look around the country. Every team has 13 scholarships available and they constantly bring in more players where they already have one of two guys.
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You can predict whatever you want... but it doesnt really mean anything in this case does it? :noidea:
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Finally, back on topic, I agree, I think Kipper's motor and talent will be a strong asset in this offense.
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Won't he have made his decision before truly seeng Underwood's Illini offense in action?
Wouldn't he have had to already graduate by now? Or at least be enrolled in his final class over the summer to do so?
thanks for the info. Ignas is the guy I was thinking about. Seemed like a too good to be true player to get when I saw his video. Had not heard much about him lately. Would love to see him as an illini.
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Steph Curry at Davidson elite? Not according to you based on these stats.
FG% by year:
Freshman 46.3
Sophomore 48.3
Junior 45.4 and 38.7% on 3s
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You are right, should look at their career. However, I don't even like to look at 2 pt shooting as you have great % from big men only shooting lay-ups.
I don't think you have to count someone's whole career to determine shooting ability. Doug Altenberger shot over 50% from three as a senior. He was an elite shooter that year. However, he shot under 30% as a freshman. He was not an elite shooter then. A player can be an elite shooter for one year, imo.
I'm interested to see the response to this.
Perhaps eFG would be the better measure... I still think he's wrong on where he draws the line for Elite, but to each their own. Some are big tent people and others think Ken Griffey Jr. isn't a first ballot hall of famer.
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