Peoria Illini
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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (May-June 2018)
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Spread over 9 schools:
MD, MSU, Mich - 3
IU, OSU, NU - 2
UI, MN, Iowa - 1
Top 50
MD - 2
UI, IU, Iowa, MN - 1
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Yes, but for fourteen teams the average comes to 1.286. So, the 1 is probably the mode.
Edit: Looks like Peoria Illini looked into it and made the point, but better.
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Sure, you can always look at different time horizons. But if that's the case there's no excuse for us having a worse class than tOSU and Mizzou.
I suggest you read what was said and responded. As I have said many times, I think recruiting projects (low ranked recruits) at this point in Spring/Summer is what BU and staff should do, we are desperate to fill gaps so we have to take chances, hoping some of them pan out. Apparently, the staff saw something in Parker Braun that made them willing to take a chance, thinking he can help.
But given the need and pressure to make the tournament, we are not currently recruiting prospects (including Braun) with the intent of them contributing in their 3rd or 4th year, as some are claiming, trying to diminish the recruit's ability compete at UI as an underclassman because he now committed to Mizzou.
I was just responding to somebody else's framing broseph. Not my words.
Feels like I'm one of the only ones left with any expectations for this program some of the time, frankly.
A decade of losing has more than taken its toll on most of this fan base....
They do, the final rankings have him committed to Illinois.
https://sites.google.com/site/rscihoops/home/2018-final
The summer list you are referring was created summer of 2017 (Sept 17, 2017) before Ayo committed.
I'm not sure that was true for our guys. They seemed to continue to foul with abandon regardless of the number already in the bag.
Seems we have an issue with math, coaching staff do not know how to count official visits and players do not know how to count fouls.
foby
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Great, let's go win some ballgames
POTY......after all the beer tears and koolaid cheers, this is what it comes down to.
I specifically responded to a post that stated that there were no minutes for Braun early in his career and that "he was told by everyone, not just UI, that he was looked at to provide help in year 2," directly stating that the coaching staff as well as other coaching staffs had told Braun he was not good to earn minutes early on. This is a lie, and actually demeaning to the recruit, in addition to not anyone knowing what the staff (and other staffs) ever told Braun.
Furthermore, continuing on demeaning the recruit, the post said that "virtually zero Illini fans will have ever even heard of the kid, let alone think anything negative from losing him."
My post has little to do with Braun being a waste, just that it is a waste of scholarship IF (as the post stated) your recruit a project to provide help 2 years down the road when we clearly have immediate pressing needs to fill gaps in the core rotation. I believe that BU and staff are clearly taking some chances on projects to fill those gaps. Naturally, as these are lower ranked recruits, statistically only a few may pan out. The rest will likely leave the program, as what happened with Matic.
Long term project development is fine if you have a program in steady state that has made the tournament and is expected to make the tournament. But that is not the case with UI coming off one of our worst season and not expected/projected currently to make the tournament. We have more pressing needs to find players to fill immediate gaps, even if that means recruiting some projects who may or may not pan out. We simply have no choice but to try.
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illini80
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To me the biggest waste is to let scholarships sit empty. Not saying they will end up unused, but that is the reason the Braun situation is so frustrating. Maybe it's only a 25% chance he works out, but it's a zero % chance if we can't fill it. Each time we missed in the last 6 weeks the odds moved further against us. And it is our most pressing need at this point.
So no, Braun was not the difference maker for next year. He was possibly an important piece in a year or two. It now appears we will still be waiting on that guy in another year.
So no, Braun was not the difference maker for next year. He was possibly an important piece in a year or two. It now appears we will still be waiting on that guy in another year.
I agree 100% with this part. It is naturally a lower chance that it works out for each project, but when we have major gaps in the frontcourt, and higher ranked recruits are all gone, the more projects (i.e., tries) you have, the higher the chances that some (at least one) may pan out next year. That is what is happening IMO. There WILL be attrition next year, no doubt.
That is the part that I don't agree with. IF you only believe that this player will not contribute next year, and you recruit him solely as a longer term developmental play, you are practically wasting a scholarship unless you believe that there is no way you can recruit with that scholarship a higher ranked player in the 2019 class. IF we do not believe that we can get someone better than Braun in the frontcourt in the 2019 class, then we have bigger issues than I thought (which was my original post/point).
We have a serous need in the big man spot, all can agree on that. Filling that need might be already have been done, or at least a body that will be adequate enough. Having another guy on the roster is something that would be a plus, not knowing what may happen.
Our staff has been looking, but ATM seems nothing yet fills the bill. With the NBA draft class rounding out, there might be a few candidates, remains to be seen. I'm sure they will look into it, but with no OV to offer might be hard to get anyone to show up.
We are at the proverbial rock and hard a place now. Finding anyone that can fit our needs seem to be nonexistent . Using a scholarship on just anyone might not serve us any good. Maybe we can still find someone, but hope is dwindling. Not using the scholarship will leave us short handed, but give us more room in the fall. Glad for the class we have, hoping they are good enough to have a successful season.
Bez, Kipper, Ebo, and Kane maybe our big guys for the season, how does that sound to all of you?
Depends on what you mean "a big of any great consequence," but we definitely need to start landing some talent higher than projects in the front court (i.e., very low ranked recruits). If we go through another cycle of Fall recruiting with misses and scholarships carried to Spring scrambling to find answers late in recruiting season, IMO we would be in trouble. BU and staff need a very strong Fall recruiting performance.
The Okoro sting will linger , it would have made a difference next year, but not sure he will play till 2019. There might be a big out there lurking, unless BU has a lab out back of Ubben and he is building one, not sure where he's at !
Focus on Whitney commit , we get that find a big!
Dan
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2020 PF from Milwaukee Jamari Sibley
https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/status/1002668311409299459
https://twitter.com/sibley_jamari/status/1002591591431892993
Father is head coach at UWM, was previously assistant at Northwestern. Baldwin has been thought of as a 5 Star type in 2021 class.
https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/status/1002669807303524358
Illinois has also offered 2021 G/F Patrick Baldwin Jr. (6-8) of Sussex Hamilton (WI) &
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1002628823551217665
https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/status/1002668311409299459
https://twitter.com/sibley_jamari/status/1002591591431892993
Father is head coach at UWM, was previously assistant at Northwestern. Baldwin has been thought of as a 5 Star type in 2021 class.
https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/status/1002669807303524358
Illinois has also offered 2021 G/F Patrick Baldwin Jr. (6-8) of Sussex Hamilton (WI) &
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1002628823551217665
The Okoro sting will linger , it would have made a difference next year, but not sure he will play till 2019. There might be a big out there lurking, unless BU has a lab out back of Ubben and he is building one, not sure where he's at !
Focus on Whitney commit , we get that find a big!
Okoro may have chosen Oregon based on the coaching style. Some people do better with the immediate loud correction. Others do not.
The problem is the 4 spot (defensively) not the center IMO. Kipper is going up against 6'8" or 9". Wisky and Minny just dominated us inside. Jones has the length but not the strength. Interestingly I counted 7 players on the Wisky roster who have been redshirted. Using scholarships to develop bigs is a viable strategy. Our problem is our immediate néed mostly because our two redshirt bigs left and one of the developmental didn't develop. We need the transfer who can contribute immediately. Caroline would have been perfect but alas.
Yeah....and I didn't realize his mother, aunt and uncle all played for Mizzou. Significant ties drew him.
It's pretty amazing how often we find new ways to lose recruiting battles
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