Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (September 2018)

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Its not sarcasm... those coaches especially Izzo have a tough love approach... when you see him tear into a player you also see him hugging them on the bench.... I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Underwood yet, but its the love part I have yet to see.

This is a ridiculous post. Do you remember the interaction BU had with Tum Tum Nairn on senior night? Or what he said after the game about the special bond between players and coach? Tough love is part of mentoring young kids. I personally don't see a difference between Izzo's sideline demeanor and BU's. If you think he doesn't love his players your not watching the same games/interviews I am.

And yes, some kids and parents aren't going to like his coaching style. We had 5 years of "kids glove" coaching and it sucked. I am willing to give him more than 1 season to see how it all shakes out.
 
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The premise doesn't make any sense anyway. The two players won't even play the same position.
Not sure in our current state we are going to “slow play” any Top 100 recruit that fits the exact mold Underwood is looking for and tells coach they want to be here. We need 6’6 to 6’8 athletes that have played on the top level AAU programs and have won at that level. TSJ needs to work on some skills, but has measurables that will allow him to compete with the other high level athletes in the conference. We have lacked these types of athletes for some time now. We need to build depth at the 2, 3 and 4 because unfortunately there will inevitably be attrition. If they all stay then we have depth!
 
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If we lose out on all 3 B1G we have been recruiting TS, EJ, OT...then I still think a class of AW, QG, MJ or another big we have offered other than JJ, would be an outstanding class. Not the 4-5* class that we were looking for, but a solid, talented class that can help us get back to where we would need to be to get that 4-5* class we all want.

Unfortunately those guys don’t look like Illini leans either.
 
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It really doesn’t. These guys, especially the top ranked guys, have 1 thing on their mind. Basketball. This gets argued about every year during OV season. There is almost no correlation between a good football program and a good basketball program. You can make a pretty large list of schools with a good football team and bad basketball team, and vice versa.

Exactly and i'm not sure how many people realize how much time is invested in College sports. I'm not even sure how many football games they actually would be able to attend.
 
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It really doesn’t. These guys, especially the top ranked guys, have 1 thing on their mind. Basketball. This gets argued about every year during OV season. There is almost no correlation between a good football program and a good basketball program. You can make a pretty large list of schools with a good football team and bad basketball team, and vice versa.

I suppose that’s a fair point. I was more thinking about fan interest in the university athletics. If the fans are into the game or event, it helps make the visit more enjoyable. To that point, The shoot-around did impress the recruits as tons of fans showed up to Ubben to watch them. The football game turnout wasn’t great but we do show love in other arenas.
 
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This is a ridiculous post. Do you remember the interaction BU had with Tum Tum Nairn on senior night? Or what he said after the game about the special bond between players and coach? Tough love is part of mentoring young kids. I personally don't see a difference between Izzo's sideline demeanor and BU's. If you think he doesn't love his players your not watching the same games/interviews I am.

And yes, some kids and parents aren't going to like his coaching style. We had 5 years of "kids glove" coaching and it sucked. I am willing to give him more than 1 season to see how it all shakes out.

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Illinois did everything possible to get Liddell. He's not coming and i am over that. Would have loved to have had him, though. I look forward to Illinois kicking his rear end wherever he lands.
I tell you who would have more of an impact next year, Gurrier (i know they don't play same position) That dude can play! I would take him over Liddell (big body or not) in a heart beat. Going to be a tough draw from what i read, but he is a mobile 6"7 who can shoot and score.
Last years class was a good class folks! Two top 100's and a top 150 plus a mobile 7 foot center. So, the staff is not shootin' craps. Doing nothing so far this year, though. Hopefully that will change.
 
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Chin recruited Kane. The rest were Orlando. They were, uh, not very highly sought after recruits though. Even Illinois can always fill our roster with those type of recruits. He needs to recruit better.

Don’t forget Feliz as well. High ranked or not, Orlando has lamded several recruits for the Illini.
 
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BU’s in your face style is no different than the HOF coaches still walking up and down the sidelines for Duke, MSU, KU, WVU and there are a lot more probably to add to the list. Give him a chance to win on the court and this topic will disappear from the forum.

It has nothing to do with coaching style. Nothing. If BU gets the talent needed he will do just fine. The question remains whether he can consistently get the required talent, which is a big difference from Duke, MSU, and KU that you reference. The topic of recruiting will never go away, it is the livelihood of the program.
 
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200+ ranked players and JUCOs are players we should land if Antigua is here or not. That's not what he was brought in to do and were lying to ourselves if we think that.
He landed top talent at KENTUCKY. Did people really think he was going to be close to landing top talent before we pull ourselves out of the gutter? If he can develop the bigs that we do land and have them compete against top 100 bigs, then he’ll stay. Plus he’s getting top guys to come to campus for OVs and although it’s not as meaningful unless they commit that’s more of Underwood’s job to seal the deal anyway.
 
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I didnt say I expect him to land what he did at Kentucky. He has an elite reputation as a recruiter. That's why he was brought in. Anything more is lying to ourselves. We can start with at least landing a top 150 kid. Dont think that's much to ask.
 
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I didnt say I expect him to land what he did at Kentucky. He has an elite reputation as a recruiter. That's why he was brought in. Anything more is lying to ourselves. We can start with at least landing a top 150 kid. Dont think that's much to ask.


Underwood's 11 recruits average ranking is 200+, so a top 150 kid is definitely an improvement.
 
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This board has descended into chaos. I don’t understand why some of you are forgetting the great foundation laid with the 2018 class which has same real studs.

The Illinois a lot of you view is not the Illinois in reality and time is needed to bridge that gap.

The sky is not falling.

Let’s just enjoy our Monday, ok? I still have the scaries while typing this.
 
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I didnt say I expect him to land what he did at Kentucky. He has an elite reputation as a recruiter. That's why he was brought in. Anything more is lying to ourselves. We can start with at least landing a top 150 kid. Dont think that's much to ask.
In this class, it shouldn’t be and I’m frustrated about it too but I think it falls more on Underwood than Antigua. Antigua is building the connections and getting them them in the door, it’s up to Underwood to seal the deal and convince the recruit that our product is good enough.
 
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This board has descended into chaos.

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The sky is not falling.

True, but no one wants to lose recruiting battles or wait a season or two for a young team to develop. Recruiting is gonna be a slog for a bit longer, unfortunately for us fans.

I'm sure morale will drop for a bit, but hopefully things improve during the season.
 
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Most posters have consistently said Liddell was never coming here. Now that we know he is not the board is freaking out. I am definitely concerned with our PF and C positions but Liddell has not move the needle.

We should be focused on 1. the staff (hopefully) coaching players up so our record gradually improves and 2. Making sure we can get players around 100. That doesn't mean we don't go after top 50 players. I just don't expect to sign them until the team performs better.

JMO
 
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Not picking on you at all but I’ve seen this posted countless times and I honestly have no idea what it means. It sounds great and all but we have to convince kids that Illinois is the best place for them but realistically it means given their current offers. Think of the beloved Illini players from the past 30-40 years and now I hate to break it to you but 90% of them would gone elsewhere if they had blue blood offers.
We were "blue blood" then.
 
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We were "blue blood" then.

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