Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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SescIllini

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BashCtIllini said:
They basically said Podz wanted a starting spot and Underwood said no.

People need to realize how the world works, let's just say Podz stays, Shannon comes in and Mayer does not. So basically Podz gets Mayer's spot. Podz still wouldn't have started. It would have been Skyy, Shannon, Melendez, Hawkins, and Dainja. Now potentially he could have got a starting spot in that scenario with Goode's injury, Melendez's struggles, and Skyy's transfer.

But the other thing is, Podz took 460 shots last year, 185 3s. Theres no chance he gets even close to that many shots at Illinois, even if he did end up starting. Shannon had our most shots at 360. Even if you give him all of Mayer's shots, that's only 327. So it wasn't just Podz ability, it was the opportunity Santa Clara gave him. If he would have transferred to Wisconsin or Marquette, he wouldn't have gotten even close to the opportunity he got by going to a weaker Santa Clara.

So when people talked about Jakstys and compared him to Kaminsky. It is so much more than just ability that leads to someones success. They have to be a good fit for the system and they have to be given opportunity. No P6 school was going to give Podz 36 mpg or 460 shots, they have too many other good players on their rosters. So what looked like, see knew it, he's not P6 calibre, turned into a windfall for Podz.
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Best explanation...needs to be linked whenever someone brings up Pods again.

At work we had a coworker who was not going to be promoted to the highest level. We all wanted him to promote but their was no urgency on his part and he was a victim of poor circumstances when given the reins to lead. He retired early from the company and started a business in the same field. He is killing it and is expanding. You just never know.
 
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BashCtIllini said:
They basically said Podz wanted a starting spot and Underwood said no.

People need to realize how the world works, let's just say Podz stays, Shannon comes in and Mayer does not. So basically Podz gets Mayer's spot. Podz still wouldn't have started. It would have been Skyy, Shannon, Melendez, Hawkins, and Dainja. Now potentially he could have got a starting spot in that scenario with Goode's injury, Melendez's struggles, and Skyy's transfer.

But the other thing is, Podz took 460 shots last year, 185 3s. Theres no chance he gets even close to that many shots at Illinois, even if he did end up starting. Shannon had our most shots at 360. Even if you give him all of Mayer's shots, that's only 327. So it wasn't just Podz ability, it was the opportunity Santa Clara gave him. If he would have transferred to Wisconsin or Marquette, he wouldn't have gotten even close to the opportunity he got by going to a weaker Santa Clara.

So when people talked about Jakstys and compared him to Kaminsky. It is so much more than just ability that leads to someones success. They have to be a good fit for the system and they have to be given opportunity. No P6 school was going to give Podz 36 mpg or 460 shots, they have too many other good players on their rosters. So what looked like, see knew it, he's not P6 calibre, turned into a windfall for Podz.
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Agree with your points

Podz was behind Goode and RJ

Goode got hurt last year

RJ was athletically gifted and could be a good defender. But he shot 26% from 3. If he shot 45% from 3 this past year he would be getting drafted.

There is so much talent and only 5 spots on the floor with one ball. This will happen in the transfer era
 
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Ryllini

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Navy_illini said:
Agree with your points

Podz was behind Goode and RJ

Goode got hurt last year

RJ was athletically gifted and could be a good defender. But he shot 26% from 3. If he shot 45% from 3 this past year he would be getting drafted.

There is so much talent and only 5 spots on the floor with one ball. This will happen in the transfer era
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More importantly, if he shot 45% from 3 this past year, we would've won a crap ton more games.
 
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WyattEarp

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InDaAZ said:
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It was more of a reference to this:
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I wonder toward the end, if he thought he made any other “great mistakes”?

Like that Puerto Rican cop he punched out…or the chair…or the people he lit up with bird-shot…or the time he wiped, and showed the TP and said: “ This is what you’re playing like!”…or the whip in the press conference…or any number of everyday people he terrorized…or Neil Reed (Or just that he got caught?)…
 
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This just makes the pg position situation more frustrating--it seems that BU can recruit guards who look great from an ability standpoint on paper, but has a problem getting them to accept their role and perform. Is this a problem with the coaching of the players or selection (not able to handle the aggressive coaching from Brad or lack of development)? Who exactly is the coach responsible for the development of the guards (other than Brad obviously being the final say)?
 
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