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Just so we're clear, Steven Bardo's career stats were:
4 assists per game, 70% Free throws, 43.9% FG, and 45.5% 3pt. FG. It's almost like he had natural PG Skills. Just saying.
4 assists per game, 70% Free throws, 43.9% FG, and 45.5% 3pt. FG. It's almost like he had natural PG Skills. Just saying.
Wow...45.5% 3p has to be a program historical leader??
MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
And 41st pick in the 1990 NBA draft. Lou played him 20 mpg as a freshman on a team with seniors Doug Altenberger and Tony Wysinger and junior Glynn Blackwell (not to mention fellow freshmen Kendall Gill and Larry Smith).
theNewGuy
- Dallas, TX
Joel Goodson
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Adding this kid to our frontcourt would be killer:
3.8 apg for a career is not some sort of "natural point guard".
In '89 he averaged 4.4 apg on the best team in America. That would put him at 94th on the leaders list this year. His A/TO ratio was under 2 which is nothing extraordinary.
Bardo was an excellent defender which is why he started in '87 over Larry Smith. Coming into that season, no one was predicting that. Smith was much more highly regarded. Bardo also brought a lot of intangibles to the floor.
Is Ty the next Bardo? I'd bet against it, but it's not some sort of ridiculous hope.
MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
Impressive stat, though Bardo's judicious shot selection and the shorter 3 point line back then played a role.
Not sure who the all-time leader is, but Doug Altenberger had a sweet jump shot and made 47.5% on 3FG (over 5 attempts per game) in his only season after the NCAA adopted the 3FG.
Compare their freshman stats, Bardo was better at the free throw line and made 1 three. He started 10 out of 31 games, so maybe Ty has a chance.
You don’t understand the frustration over the PG situation? That seems disingenuous. I think the frustration is primarily b/c what you’re saying…there is a ton of talent and what appears to be a great mix of players. Just feels like that solid, experienced PG is the missing piece to make this a top 10 team. That’s the frustration.
And just for the record, I 100% appreciate the info you and other insiders provide.
The line was a closer than now.
Awful take.
If Ty is the 87 version of Steve Bardo we are knocking on the top 10 this year. I've seen comments about the # of assists in this thread - that's not the only marker of a good PG. Bardo was a great defender, good distributor and set the offense well. If Ty can do that (not to mention how well he rebounds) we will be in great shape this year.
I think you are missing the point- he would be a point forward who runs the offense but is guarded by and will guard another forward most of the time. He will also play Uber the basket a bunch for his rebounding on both ends- the guards on the floor will be responsible for getting back on D, guarding the other teams PG etc
He's not a point guard either... did you watch him play or are you just pissed off he's going to be drafted? Did you watch the NBA playoffs this year? Think Podz could guard anyone there?
Just wanting to re-post this as it is profound. There may be a play or set that starts with Ty having the ball at the top of the circle, but playing him at PG full time is as negative an idea as any ever purported....and we are talking about the Loyalty Message Board which is as goofy as any. Ty is a beast at the rim where his skills are elite. Take that away and regardless of what the team needs, it is weaker. What he can contribute is as an option for breaking a press...but otherwise his skills are wasted if he is more than 12 ft. from the rim. Ty, Harris, and Dainja need to commit fully to finding help with and improving their FT % if they want to be on the floor more.
It would be nice to have another PG on the roster with skills and experience, but it does not exist. There are a couple of young men with skills at that position who lack physical development and experience along with a transfer for which we have no idea of his availability or health. Sincere may be an option too. But putting Ty there and playing him for significant minutes is something cringe-worthy.
He’s not going in the top 15.
I've been reading the comments about the PG situation for this upcoming season...I guess for me it boils down to what type of PG do most people envision for this team?? There's the quick, good ball handler that can dish out assists to teammates, shoots well from the perimeter and can make free throws especially down the stretch type PG....probably what most see as a true PG.....then there's the bigger maybe not as quick PG that handles the ball well enough to execute the offense, can pass the ball over the top of smaller guards, is capable to posting up smaller players guarding him, gets a ton of rebounds and plays smothering defense over the smaller player he's guarding....I am hoping we have both types of PG this season....Using Ty and DGL as matchups and situations dictate, we have two distinct PG's with very different skill sets and hopefully will make it difficult for opposing teams to match up and prepare for us this season....jmho......
Dr Copejam
- The Rock
TY has the potential to maybe be better than Bardo, but it’s not a given. Bardo was an excellent team player who deferred to his teammates, but don’t be fooled. Bardo could play. He was good enough to play in the NBA for a minute.Ty is going to be better. Just sayin.
Edit: didn’t see “pg”. Ty will be a better player than Bardo though, definitely. Sorry not sorry
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
If you spell Ty Rodgers in Scrabble, you win. Forever.
Ty is the new Chuck Norris.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
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What do you suggest as a replacement?
How does Podz keeping getting moved up here?
He being mocked as a late 1st/early 2nd Rd pick. Where are you seeing him as a lottery pick?
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