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Must be tough spending every waking moment manufacturing rationales to trash Underwood.
Tell us what you do for a living?
Be interested to know.
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Teams are moving towards this actually … Villanova hired one this off-season and Xavier has one as well …
Brad has burnt some bridges … No getting around it … He has recruited some really good players but outside of Ayo and Kofi he has not kept any … And Kofi only stayed for one rea$on … Let’s just keep it
on that …At the end of the day, as a HC you can’t lose the boosters and that’s the road Brad is heading down … Josh will ALWAYS side with the boosters and that’s just how it goes … Especially when we haven’t touched a 2nd weekend …
Stability doesn’t mean jack anymore … These kids are pros now … They leave every year anyways … There is no culture … You need a guy who can COACH and a guy who can really, really get along with the boosters so he can recruit … Sean Miller does both of those things at an elite level … Muss does as well … Tang does as well … All would be upgrades …
Oats will be getting the next blue blood job that opens between UNC and Kansas … He isn’t coming here … Wouldn’t even consider it …
Now … I’ve got a sleepover to get to …
… GMAB
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Brad has burnt some bridges … No getting around it … He has recruited some really good players but outside of Ayo and Kofi he has not kept any … And Kofi only stayed for one rea$on … Let’s just keep it
At the end of the day, as a HC you can’t lose the boosters and that’s the road Brad is heading down … Josh will ALWAYS side with the boosters and that’s just how it goes … Especially when we haven’t touched a 2nd weekend …
Stability doesn’t mean jack anymore … These kids are pros now … They leave every year anyways … There is no culture … You need a guy who can COACH and a guy who can really, really get along with the boosters so he can recruit … Sean Miller does both of those things at an elite level … Muss does as well … Tang does as well … All would be upgrades …
Oats will be getting the next blue blood job that opens between UNC and Kansas … He isn’t coming here … Wouldn’t even consider it …
Now … I’ve got a sleepover to get to …
… GMAB
I agree that you shouldn't have to let a coach bottom out or sink a program.
I personally think Underwood has done enough to get 2 more seasons barring him not crashing and burning this year.
However, if a guy like Oats, Muss, or Miller was actually available and he doesn't make a run this year then I think you have to seriously consider it. The only way you make that change though is if you know you have a guaranteed proven successor in place.
Based on the ultimate metric (according to many here), Sweet 16's, the rankings would be:
1. Kansas State - 19
2. Notre Dame - 17
3. Houston - 15
T4. Oklahoma - 14
T4. Texas - 14
T6. Gonzaga - 13
T6. Purdue - 13
T6. Illinois - 13
I’m a retired motivational speaker.
don't deny itBrad has burnt some bridges … No getting around it … He has recruited some really good players but outside of Ayo and Kofi he has not kept any … And Kofi only stayed for one rea$on … Let’s just keep it
At the end of the day, as a HC you can’t lose the boosters and that’s the road Brad is heading down … Josh will ALWAYS side with the boosters and that’s just how it goes … Especially when we haven’t touched a 2nd weekend …
Stability doesn’t mean jack anymore … These kids are pros now … They leave every year anyways … There is no culture … You need a guy who can COACH and a guy who can really, really get along with the boosters so he can recruit … Sean Miller does both of those things at an elite level … Muss does as well … Tang does as well … All would be upgrades …
Oats will be getting the next blue blood job that opens between UNC and Kansas … He isn’t coming here … Wouldn’t even consider it …
Now … I’ve got a sleepover to get to …
… GMAB
He still added Domask, Harmon, and Guerrier this year without a PG.
His biggest issue has been lack of development moreso than guys transferring. The only guy to transfer out that hurts is Podz and it was perfectly understandable why he would leave. I can't blame Brad for that.
If the young guys keep developing Dainja, Hansberry, and Morez is a solid interior build plus Goode and Rodgers on the wing then Harris and DGL at guard.
That's 7 contributors right there. Teams don't roll that deep so youre realistically only looking for 3 transfers. They will also add some more freshman alongside Morez. Adding 3 contributors isn't a super difficult task since he added two last year in Shannon and Mayer and then already has 3 this year.
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Well that's a whole separate level of WTF. I realize you want to stick it to the kids who do something dumb, but why not do that after you play the game so you at least don't blow your record?
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Wow
all of this ugly talk about BU and disgruntled boosters and drunk players. .
Makes me kinda long for the "why couldn't we keep Podz?" discusions...
On 2d thought....
all of this ugly talk about BU and disgruntled boosters and drunk players. .
Makes me kinda long for the "why couldn't we keep Podz?" discusions...
On 2d thought....
I’ve been waiting for the disillusioned alumni donors to start showing up since NIL was introduced. The idea that one can buy a title or even sweet 16 given all the complexities 18-22 year old spoiled amateur athletes bring to the table is proving absurd. It is difficult enough in the pro leagues (Mets….). To say nothing of injuries, refs, or just the likelihood of getting a bad matchup in a single elimination tournament. This golden age for the players will be ending. Not sure what it will be replaced with, but if I had to guess, much more structured, back loaded deals, scaled to measurable factors.
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If you're telling me he was a primary point guard in hs then yes. But I was not aware of that. If true, thanks for the correction.
Are all 3 legit options? It seems like the concern many have here is that if we were to move on from BU we wouldn’t be able to land a capable replacement. I’d be happy with all 3 you listed but are they legit options?
I agree with all this… but at a program level is that where you want to be in year 8?
If we have those seven, six of which will have another year of experience, and Hansberry and DGL are anywhere near as good as their reputation/recruiting rank, then I expect a 6-8 seed in March. I'm not seeing a major issue. If 2 of them transfer out, despite being in line for big minutes, then yes, there is a culture issue.
No but college basketball ebbs and flows for every program even the blue bloods. Teams have up and down years based on personnel.
I think this years team is incredibly deep even without a PG addition. They might not be as good next year but who knows. The transfer portal has kind of spoiled people into not relying on the unknown but college basketball is built on unheralded recruits developing.
Ty could become a stud, Goode could be a knockdown 3 pt shooter in the mold of a Ben Brust then maybe one or both of DGL become dynamic point guards and Hansberry and Johnson could team up to be an incredibly dynamic inside. Also the sky is the limit if Harris can develop some offensive skills.
If next year's team is DGL/Moretti, Goode/Harris, Rodgers, Hansberry, Morez/Dainja. That is 8 deep already and 7 of them are basically top 100 guys(yes I know Harris and DGL weren't quite top 100). Retain those guys add a veteran guard, forward, and big and that's a talented roster.
The one thing that gets me is the excuses I hear. We got manhandled by Loyola, we never led, and people always go to the excuse that Loyola was underseeded but leave out the fact that in the next round they loss to 12 seed Oregon St
Then the next year we were lucky to get by Chattanooga and then got dominated by Houston who yes may have been under seeded but it's the NCAA tourney just show up and play
Then of course against Arkansas we didn't even show up to play when all we heard from Brad was "This team is built for March"
That's 4 really ugly games in the tourney
Then the next year we were lucky to get by Chattanooga and then got dominated by Houston who yes may have been under seeded but it's the NCAA tourney just show up and play
Then of course against Arkansas we didn't even show up to play when all we heard from Brad was "This team is built for March"
That's 4 really ugly games in the tourney
That is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time.
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I hope like hell you are right!
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