Something I thought was interesting was comparing high school ratings to transfer ratings. Domask, Guerrier and Harmon were all ranked 90-91 as transfers on 247, way below top high schoolers, which would make them fringe top-100. I don't know if Underwood just hit a series of home runs (he may have) or if it's common for the services to undervalue age/experience. What it says to me is that services may not yet have figured out how to adapt their ratings paradigm to the current era. I'd argue that you have to evaluate talent most heavily based on what a player is anticipated to contribute NEXT season. Maybe not how high schoolers have traditionally been looked at.
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Something I thought was interesting was comparing high school ratings to transfer ratings. Domask, Guerrier and Harmon were all ranked 90-91 as transfers on 247, way below top high schoolers, which would make them fringe top-100. I don't know if Underwood just hit a series of home runs (he may have) or if it's common for the services to undervalue age/experience. What it says to me is that services may not yet have figured out how to adapt their ratings paradigm to the current era. I'd argue that you have to evaluate talent most heavily based on what a player is anticipated to contribute NEXT season. Maybe not how high schoolers have traditionally been looked at.
How many of you are using that bot for voting? He's up by almost 3000 now! Slow down or they'll know something is going on
I just went to vote (again), and it appears that the page has been removed...
Die hard Illini fan, duh, but seeing Rutgers get to the Dance would be quite the sight. I'd root for Pikiell.
1 and done's are awesome and sometimes I wish we'd land a few more of those guys...but the dudes who have NBA talent and stick around for 2-3 years are the ultimate recruit for a program IMO...Ayo is a perfect example. I think Fears and Morez fall into this category...future is bright...bright orange
HELL NO !!!
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Lol we broke it.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Them just making the tourney with the #2&3 players would be really damning for the talent on that roster...
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sacraig
- The desert
Really Rick Barnes at Texas-esque.
I have to wonder how overvalued these top 10 kids are with P5 schools now loading up on seasoned/experienced transfers every year, plus the caveat that you probably only get these players for one season (and its a season in which they're brand new to this level, body/strength may be lacking compared to 23 y/o players, etcetera).
If you took the #2 and #3 kids off of 247's rankings and those were your best players on your team- how good would that team be? The #2 and #3 players this year were Isiah Collier and Justin Edwards. Decent, but... meh? Collier is averaging 15 ppg but his team is terrible (8-11 USC). Edwards is averaging 8 ppg for Kentucky, but if he's your #2 guy, then how good is your team? Last year Dereck Lively and Tariq Whitehead were #2 and #3, and they were fine role players on a good Duke team, averaging 8 and 5 ppg respectively. But, if they were your 1A/1B guys... again, how good is your team? Many of these kids, no matter the ranking, (1) need another year to be good college players, but (2) they get drafted on potential so you only get one season from them. As far as being effective, needle-moving college players, they are typically very hit & miss and not a sure thing at all.
Living in NC affords me the constant "pleasure" of dealing with Duke grads and fans. I have to say that the overwhelming majority of them are pompous A-holes who are overly impressed with themselves. I am a bit suspect of anyone who desires to be associated with them. Thereby, Cooper Flagg has become devalued by half due to his choice to go there. And no, my white hot disdain for everything Duke has not at all clouded my judgement on this topic! I have no biases, and I am 100% clear-headed on this topic......
It works for me. He's up by 5500 LOL
For sure not THE guy, but they're still putting up 17 & 13 PER rating. That's Domask/Hawkins territory.
The only THE guys I remember on championship teams were Anthony Davis, Carmelo & DRose, but all had really good teams around them.
Really depends on the year and the player. Have to agree though that the landscape has changed with NIL, better minor league options, more transfer options and super seniors.
Bigtex
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it is still up and voted again.
Rez 13,236 votes
2nd place 7728 votes
I think we kind of agree then that Rutgers is going to need more than just those two guys. Then, the year after that, they're likely history anyway.
skyIdub
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Mid-Season Fan Poll - Prep Hoops
Now that we are past the halfway mark of the high school season we wanted to get Prep Hoops Illinois fans opinions on topics around the state. Please vote and give us your thoughts on Mid-Season Picks in a variety of categories! This Poll Will Close on Sunday, January 28
it is still up and voted again.
Rez 13,236 votes
2nd place 7728 votes
Morez bot vs. Angelo Ciaravino's bot......
chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
@Bigtex, Thanks. It was gone for me about an hour ago, but I tried your link, and it worked. Let’ssssss go!Mid-Season Fan Poll - Prep Hoops
Now that we are past the halfway mark of the high school season we wanted to get Prep Hoops Illinois fans opinions on topics around the state. Please vote and give us your thoughts on Mid-Season Picks in a variety of categories! This Poll Will Close on Sunday, January 28
it is still up and voted again.
Rez 13,236 votes
2nd place 7728 votes
My thanks too Bigtex. Couldn't vote until you put it back up@Bigtex, Thanks. It was gone for me about an hour ago, but I tried your link, and it worked. Let’ssssss go!
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Morez Sr. thanks Loyalty for its assistance . . .
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