Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Man i don’t know if there ever was a recruit in the past decade and perhaps further that was more committed to illinois.

Not saying he’d be willing to ride pine for 3 years, but id imagine a transfer big his freshmen year isn’t going to sway morez after a 3 year commitment.
I'm way behind, and I'm sure this name has been thrown out there..... Jereme Richmond..... I know he didn't pan out.... but his was the 1st name that came to mind.
 
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Offensive stats:
Harmon- 47.3% 2pt%, 30.6% 3pt%, 91.5% FT%, 5.5 OReb%, 9.6ast rate, 13.0 to rate

Harris- 48.7% 2pt%, 31.7% 3pt%, 20.0% FT%, 4.6 OReb%, 11.2ast rate, 16.1 to rate

So over the full season, Sencire is the better shooter and passer while Justin was the better rebounder, turned the ball over less, and was a much better free throw shooter. Basically a wash. Oh, and Justin's career stats are practically identical shooting wise. So this was a pretty average career year for him...
Percentages look about the same but Justin scored 213 points in 18.7 minutes per game. Harris 121 points in 14.5 minutes. Is Harris defense that much better? Based on Harris offense you can’t play him 15 minutes
 
#579      
I've not tried them but the idea is sound. Only problem is they probably don't hold their cold for long. Now, if they had some kind of phase changing medium inside (like water) you might get the best of both worlds.
May have been addressed as I've been offline near 24 hours, but this piqued my interest... I am a dullard but love science, real or fiction, and am curious. is this a thing? Does having a couple different solids/gels working together work better than a single? Side Note, I've always hated plastic anything, but I do know those plastic freezer mugs with the gel inbetween seem to work pretty darn well.
 
#581      
ok, don't know much about this kid, but I love this clip and he's from Chicago. started out at Loyola (Chicago), transferred to UC-Davis and is back in the portal. junior to be.

I saw him live his jr year of high school. He played against creighton commit devin Davis. I’m pretty sure he was originally a Carolina commit. He was really good at getting to his spots and hitting shots.
 
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Percentages look about the same but Justin scored 213 points in 18.7 minutes per game. Harris 121 points in 14.5 minutes. Is Harris defense that much better? Based on Harris offense you can’t play him 15 minutes
Yes his defense is that much better... And you're talking about a freshman vs a 4th or 5th year Senior. Harris isn't going to average the same amount of points as he did as a freshman.
 
#583      
Please stop spreading weird rumors. Lville is what old school Russians called Leningrad.
Vat is correct, Comrade.
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#584      
Any chance Jaxson Kohler hits the portal from Sparty? He visited out of high school. Always feel like he isn’t utilized well at Sparty. Not as high profile as some of the other names we are looking at, but I see Jack Ingram 2.0 potential.
 
#587      
Brandon Garrison should be up there with Storr in terms of being a priority IMO Big man can move, rim protect and has a jumper. Perfect fit for this team exactly what they need.
Sounds good, but people are saying he measured out at 6'8". Anyone watched him to know if he can play Center for us? Sounds like he's Amani's size, and shorter than Morez.
 
#588      
Harmon overall is better than Harris. Harris wasn’t an offensive threat. Harmon had his issues but don’t tell me you would want Harris on the floor if you needed to score.

I think Harris could develop into a good player but he was a 20% free throw shooter
Hmm. Maybe he did but it seemed that he missed every shot in the last 5 games. I know that I grumbled way more about his game than any other Illini player.
 
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Are you sure about that? 2021-22 had Trent, DMW and Kofi that were leaders and staples of the culture buy-in. Those were multi year veterans and top players in the system. They were everyday guys. Not to mention our legendary program resuscitator in Ayo, who instilled that into this program, and was there for three years prior.

You can’t guarantee maintaining that culture with transfers galore. The evidence is in the results.

I’d say it’s 1-1 with 23-24 being a big W and 22-23 being a big L as far as culture goes.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think the original post was probably referring to the 22-23 team being the outlier....I THINK. So maybe y'all in agreement.
 
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Harmon had difficulty keeping quick guards in front of him, especially in the last 1-2 months.
Actually that's just the opposite of how Harmon's defense went this year. Early on he struggled at times to stay in front of anyone and was continually getting beat on back cuts. You could tell he was not focused on the defensive end of the floor. The last two months he actually played his best defense. He did a much better job of staying in front of and with his man in general and rarely got beat back door. His on ball defense was always pretty good, it was his off ball defense that really lacked but he cleaned that up as the year went on.
 
#591      

DReq

Always Illini
Central Illinois
Homegrown talent in this case was referring to high school recruits (i.e. similar to a farm system/draft prospects). Had nothing to do with geographic location of said recruits. I do not have an issue with using the portal and we've used it very successfully. Where I do start to have an issue is when we are no longer simply recruiting to fill open spots and supplement our roster, but to also block the path of development of prized recruits and may cause locker room issues for what may wind up being nominal gains for the sake of "min-maxing" season roster optimization. I just don't see Amani being relegated to deep depth this season when he was likely expecting at least backup duty on an entirely open roster going into offseason, or Ty being relegated to the bench after likely expecting a starting spot going all that well. That said, the argument against what I'm saying is that Cal has made similar structures work with a new swath of 5* freshmen every year and has won a title and this approach isn't too dissimilar. That said, I have concerns about chemistry, leadership, and morale. And I think Amani could be a very capable backup, and Ty a very capable starter next year if given the opportunity, just like I think Sencire could've been a very capable starter this year had we given him the opportunity instead of signing Justin Harmon. But that's entirely up for debate and I'm certainly happy to agree to disagree.
I see you mean developing HS players. Homegrown appeared to me to be the old saw of getting Illinois based players. I think pursuing a plan to avoid offending a “very capable backup” by not bringing in a proven starter is a strategy for mediocrity. Players who need a path created for them to succeed will be disappointed in their future. Players who face competition head on to earn minutes and stardom give themselves a chance to succeed. TSJ don’t get into the gym at 4:30 am to slide into an automatic opening. He worked his tail off to earn his minutes. That is the kind of player I want in O&B.
You and I both want the same thing. I just don’t think we get there watching players with deficiencies in the hope that they may improve. I want to hear the story of their hard work on the things they need to improve and then see it in competition. Hopefully we both get the final result we want and get that Natty to hang at SFA (or two or three).
 
#592      
... and a splash of H2O, as someone else noted. And a bit of heat applied to the empty glass in advance, IMO.
What does that even mean? Never heard of such a thing. Obviously the folks in Europe have a propensity for room-temp beverages.... I don't. I mostly enjoy any beverage outside of coffee, on the chilled side.
 
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Loyalillini10

Urbana, IL
Are you sure about that? 2021-22 had Trent, DMW and Kofi that were leaders and staples of the culture buy-in. Those were multi year veterans and top players in the system. They were everyday guys. Not to mention our legendary program resuscitator in Ayo, who instilled that into this program, and was there for three years prior.

You can’t guarantee maintaining that culture with transfers galore. The evidence is in the results.

I’d say it’s 1-1 with 23-24 being a big W and 22-23 being a big L as far as culture goes.
Huh? Did you misread my post? You are saying the exact same thing I did, but with a lot more words.
 
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Homegrown talent in this case was referring to high school recruits (i.e. similar to a farm system/draft prospects). Had nothing to do with geographic location of said recruits. I do not have an issue with using the portal and we've used it very successfully. Where I do start to have an issue is when we are no longer simply recruiting to fill open spots and supplement our roster, but to also block the path of development of prized recruits and may cause locker room issues for what may wind up being nominal gains for the sake of "min-maxing" season roster optimization. I just don't see Amani being relegated to deep depth this season when he was likely expecting at least backup duty on an entirely open roster going into offseason, or Ty being relegated to the bench after likely expecting a starting spot going all that well. That said, the argument against what I'm saying is that Cal has made similar structures work with a new swath of 5* freshmen every year and has won a title and this approach isn't too dissimilar. That said, I have concerns about chemistry, leadership, and morale. And I think Amani could be a very capable backup, and Ty a very capable starter next year if given the opportunity, just like I think Sencire could've been a very capable starter this year had we given him the opportunity instead of signing Justin Harmon. But that's entirely up for debate and I'm certainly happy to agree to disagree.
Honestly, when money is being put in player's pockets at the rate that it is and these same players can pick up and leave at the drop of a hat....it's all about business and the business that these coaches are in, is winning. You stock your shelves with as much as possible before each year and reevaluate at the end of the year.

The days of developing your roster from them being recruits to graduates are long, long gone.

There are some fans that wanted Brad's head last year for not making it to the second weekend last year. His job isn't to be a babysitter or a money manager. His best 5 get the bulk of the minutes, the next 3 fill important roles and the rest fill in gaps when needed.

It's frustrating to see what college sports has become. Time is no longer a luxury for these coaches.
 
#599      
If Gritty was a defense lawyer, he'd tell all his clients they're getting the death penalty before they're even charged. :D
Gritty wouldn't just tell them they were getting the death penalty. He'd have the data to explain to them why they deserved it. That way they can focus on the future.

Unfortunately in the Domask case, I think he is right. No one is getting back eligibility for the covid year. Players that were out injured all year (zero playing time) are being told no.
 
#600      
Hey insiders! (Or anybody) Surely you must know something about who the women are seeking in the portal. Or I'll bet you could find out since Brad and Shauna seem to share. We're starving for info over at Illini Womens Basketball thread. Anxiously awaiting an answer at the Womens thread. Thanks
 
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