Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Chuck Nuggets

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What context makes it okay for a grown a** man who spends his entire life on a message board to call a high school player he doesn't know soft? If the kid just isn't a fit, fine. It will sort itself out. Podz evidently wasn't a fit. It happens. Kids develop at different rates and at different ages. I'll continue to call out these jerks as long as Dan allows me to.
 
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BashCtIllini

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Poe's Law said:
Might be good to at least lay the ground work and build relationships while they’re preps. You don’t think there’s going to be several instances of, “I’m not transferring there they didn’t give me the time of day when I was a prep player”?
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No I don't, because they are also getting paid.

There are certainly going to be instances where a guy takes less because he has a better relationship with a certain staff, and that relationship certainly could have started in high school, but this is a 100% business now. Guys are looking for PT, money, and wins.

And even if you believed laying the ground work in high school will pay off, how in the world would you know which guys to work on. I never heard of Justin Harmon, Marcus Hill, Dante Maddox, Marcus Domask, etc.

As chance may have it, I actually had some random dude strike up a conversation with me in the grocery store. He was wearing an Iowa hat and noticed my Illini hat. He really only said, I like Terrence Shannon and I hate this transfer $h!t. It's just a different game now, and many don't like it. I think those that win will rather quickly get over it, but those that don't, interest will wane.
 
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BashCtIllini said:
No I don't, because they are also getting paid.

There are certainly going to be instances where a guy takes less because he has a better relationship with a certain staff, and that relationship certainly could have started in high school, but this is a 100% business now. Guys are looking for PT, money, and wins.

And even if you believed laying the ground work in high school will pay off, how in the world would you know which guys to work on. I never heard of Justin Harmon, Marcus Hill, Dante Maddox, Marcus Domask, etc.

As chance may have it, I actually had some random dude strike up a conversation with me in the grocery store. He was wearing an Iowa hat and noticed my Illini hat. He really only said, I like Terrence Shannon and I hate this transfer $h!t. It's just a different game now, and many don't like it. I think those that win will rather quickly get over it, but those that don't, interest will wane.
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The interest will wane….until their favorite team learns to adapt and they start winning consistently.
 
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Govoner Vaugn Fan

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ginabackes00 said:
I could be completely wrong, but let's look at our freshmen DGL and Hansberry. My guess is they came here believing they were going to get decent minutes. I'd also guess they realized playing against the likes of Coleman, Domask, and Shannon, they need to accept they have room to improve in order to play more minutes with a winning program.
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Were it not for the back injury, I think Hansberry would have seen decent minutes
 
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It's not new, kids have always been able to get out of their LOI
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Previously, unless there was a coaching change, or other extenuating circumstances, there was a penalty. I suppose now, with unlimited transfers, there isn't.

I have followed basketball recruiting for a long time. At first, kids just inked non-binding scholarship agreements with conferences and schools. A school.would sign a player, then he'd go elsewhere at the last minute.

So they added the binding NLI with spring signing. Then about 40 years ago, they added early signing.

If the NLI is now effectively non-binding; what's the points? They should get rid of it.
 
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Still don't see how you-don't-get-that he wasn't talking about exploiting workers? He's talking about asking for things you don't desearve, you seem to be talking about asking for something that's desearved. IMO of course.
 
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nichi said:
Previously, unless there was a coaching change, or other extenuating circumstances, there was a penalty. I suppose now, with unlimited transfers, there isn't.

I have followed basketball recruiting for a long time. At first, kids just inked non-binding scholarship agreements with conferences and schools. A school.would sign a player, then he'd go elsewhere at the last minute.

So they added the binding NLI with spring signing. Then about 40 years ago, they added early signing.

If the NLI is now effectively non-binding; what's the points? They should get rid of it.
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There was never any penalty
 
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Heisenbobble

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aaeismacgychel said:
Sigh... I'm about done caring, I really am. I tend to think the reason there aren't more kids pursuing engineering degrees while playing power 5 basketball has less to do with kids not wanting an education than it has to do with kids being both that skilled in the maths and sciences as well as physically and athletically gifted are in rather short supply. And you are right, my thoughts are indeed skewed, maybe because I used to tutor Illinois athletes, or perhaps it's that I still despise Jalen Rose and don't really give much credence to the idea that no college athlete cares about anything outside of hookers, blow, and parties. Or that I still hate UNC for making a mockery of college curriculums and fielding a team of athletes who never had to go to classes while fielding a team that dashed our title hopes. Or it could be that outside of the profitable sports like football and basketball you actually see a lot more athletes having actual difficult majors and getting on the dean's lists. But whatever it is, all I know is that while I don't like it, it doesn't really matter anymore. It's where college basketball is at. Be a top 8 player on your team or begone. And you are right, Ingram is an imperfect example. Lieb would probably be a better one. But as I said, once the 4 year eligibility requirement gets struck down by the courts, in I'm guessing within the next 3 years, none of this will matter. Plus who knows, at that point we might just get a few more seasons of Kofi. I could get behind that...
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Illini92and96 said:
What’s the point of committing if there is no real commitment.
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Once signed, don't see us taking that away, so from our perspective it is indeed a "real" commitment.
It's in the player's best interest to commit if he can in most instances, IMO.
 
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LvilleILL

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Heisenbobble said:
No hints on the transfer that seems to be taking the minutes Butler likely wasn't going to get next season, anyway? I'm really curious. And clearly impatient. 😁
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Things will start to unfold this next week. We will have several guys on campus starting on Thursday, and a couple guys will announce they are leaving along with Jase. I expect us to start to get some commitments as early as next weekend or the following week.

Maddox, Hill, Storr, Raynaud, Oweh, Boswell, and a few others are the ones I have my eyes on
 
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