Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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ChiefGritty

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BretMyBeachHouse said:
2023 was a lot better than many Illini years. I'm not sure what your point is.

we have two all out portal NIL years to compare for our team. One featured massive turnover. The other didn't. The massive turnover year was a disappointment to everyone from Underwood on down (do you want me to quote all the made for March quotes that appeared in June 2022?). This year was excellent.

Once again. This is a small sample size. So perhaps we can create a bunch of 2023 clones and grab a top 4 seed instead of an 8 seed. Quite frankly, I'm not sure. But lots of people want to ignore 2023 and basically seem to think that it offers no guidance for the future. I guess we'll see.
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In many ways (Gritty self-parody incoming) we already made the decision that this was going to be a brand new team LAST offseason, having so many multi-year guys leave and replacing them with super seniors.

We're pot committed, and look promising to secure some of the very best players in the portal this year, after succeeding wildly last year.

BU's view (I think he might have said something like this publicly) is that the best way to be good in 2026 is to be good in 2025, and so on. One of 2023's new pieces that led to a cultural meltdown was TSJ. The more talented plan A is, the more successful plan B is likely to be.
 
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812Jamie

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Illini 993 said:
For those who followed Indiana State this year, what is your take on Jayson Kent? Can he play defense, good teammate, etc? After Indy posted his profile, I became intrigued with his stats - 74.5% on 2s, .366 on 3s, .837 FTs. He led the nation in 2 point % as a 6'7" guard, the next guard on the list was at #19. That sure looks like a shooters profile to me.
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I live in Terre Haute and saw Indiana State play 8-10 times this season. Kent would fit in beautifully. Good size, strength and motor. Avila is really fun and an interesting idea, but his foot speed showed against Minn, SMU, Cincy, and Sparty. Idk about that one plus I think he's the most likely to follow Schertz. Conwell was the best on the team, imo. Quick, strong, can shoot the 3 and get to the rim. Honestly though, one year of Julian Larry at PG could be a great thing for a transitioning Illini team. He'll score 12-13, get assists, is strong and a dog on D. To me, size is the one downfall.
 
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RabidDawgClassic

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altgeld88 said:
To be brutally frank: this content is why I'm here this time of year. It's the blueberries within the muffin.
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I’ll just go ahead and jump to the series finale. Turns out she was right all along!

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Thompson

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SkyysNotFalling said:
would Ballo want to play with Boswell again?

Dream scenario given Hawkins/Domask are gone seems like

Boswell/Harris
Maddox/DGL
Storr/Hill/Davis
Amos/Ty/Luke
Ballo/Morez//Jakstys
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I don’t think Boswell liked throwing it into a big man and not having spacing like we did last year
 
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Emerson Bigguns

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Bigtex said:
Which is why Butler reopened his recruitment. Until Illinois starts regularly bringing in top 30 kids (Morez & Fears) freshman playing time will be limited (Hansberry & DGL). Not sure it is my preferred method of building a program, but can't complain about the 23-24 results.

Does 24-25 look like 23-24? or 22-23? Obviously too early to answer that but will be interesting to watch this playout.

Besides Hawkins, Frazier, DaWilliams has Coach underwood had any other guys start and finish at Illinois?
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Ayo and Kofi never played anywhere else... Does becoming an All-American and going pro count as finishing? For the purposes of basketball recruiting, one could argue it does... Those guys came to major in basketball.
 
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KingWolf11

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Peoriapipeline said:
Hope we bring on Xavier Amos would love to have him for 2 years
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FWIW the guys at Northern don't think he reacts to coaching very well. It doesn't help when you are playing in front of 14 people probably but just throwing that out there.
 
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PepeSilvia

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ugottabjoshinme said:
Green developed a jump shot out of nowhere between his sophomore and junior seasons. He shot 36% junior year and 38% senior year from 3 after attempting 3 total 3 point shots his first two seasons. If Ty is on this arc, we are gonna be cooking with gas.
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Honestly I was just talking about how Green used to shoot like sub 30% from 3 and teams would just leave him wide open but he was incredibly valuable because he did everything else.

But looking at college he did have a really strange jump. 0-1 as a freshman and 2-16(12.5%) as a soph while shooting 65% from the line over both years. Then shot 36% from 3 as a junior nearly 39% as a senior.

Ty is currently 0-1 from 3 for his career but he significantly improved as a free throw shooter(was actually shooting 62% until he finished the year 0-4).

I'm not saying he's going to take a Draymond like leap of anything but if you look at his high school film his shot doesn't look broken or anything. A little flat but nothing terrible. And he's Jason Richardsons nephew you're telling me he can't work and shoot 30% on open set threes to at least keep defenses honest?
 
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IllianaOne

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Illini 993 said:
For those who followed Indiana State this year, what is your take on Jayson Kent? Can he play defense, good teammate, etc? After Indy posted his profile, I became intrigued with his stats - 74.5% on 2s, .366 on 3s, .837 FTs. He led the nation in 2 point % as a 6'7" guard, the next guard on the list was at #19. That sure looks like a shooters profile to me.
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As a Sycamore grad and Sycamore & Illini fan I can say he was great for us. He is a great rebounder and really would be more of a SF for the Illini. He was our PF. This has been a TERRIBLE day. Amateur college sports is dead.
 
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Chuck Nuggets

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Dip your nuggets in my staff source sauce.
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It's pretty pathetic. Even if just being a decent man towards a kid isn't enough to bite your tongue, there are selfish reasons to do it.
 
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IllianaOne

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812Jamie said:
I live in Terre Haute and saw Indiana State play 8-10 times this season. Kent would fit in beautifully. Good size, strength and motor. Avila is really fun and an interesting idea, but his foot speed showed against Minn, SMU, Cincy, and Sparty. Idk about that one plus I think he's the most likely to follow Schertz. Conwell was the best on the team, imo. Quick, strong, can shoot the 3 and get to the rim. Honestly though, one year of Julian Larry at PG could be a great thing for a transitioning Illini team. He'll score 12-13, get assists, is strong and a dog on D. To me, size is the one downfall.
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Larry is a bit too loose with the ball. In the BT he'd remind people too much of Curbelo, no thanks. I hope he returns to State.
 
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IllianaOne

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IllianaOne said:
As a Sycamore grad and Sycamore & Illini fan I can say he was great for us. He is a great rebounder and really would be more of a SF for the Illini. He was our PF. This has been a TERRIBLE day. Amateur college sports is dead.
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Conwell would be great plus it would keep him away for IU or St. Louis. F$%k St. Louis!
 
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PepeSilvia

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Illini 993 said:
For those who followed Indiana State this year, what is your take on Jayson Kent? Can he play defense, good teammate, etc? After Indy posted his profile, I became intrigued with his stats - 74.5% on 2s, .366 on 3s, .837 FTs. He led the nation in 2 point % as a 6'7" guard, the next guard on the list was at #19. That sure looks like a shooters profile to me.
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He's not really a guard. He would play the Quincy Guerrier type role though he's not quite as strong but he's more fluid and skilled imo.

Good spot up shooter, moves very well off the ball. Quality role player at any school though I think Conwell would be the prize from Indiana St.
 
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soupy17

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Indy Illini Fan said:
I have said all along ... Over signing by 1 is on the table ...

Ty stays ... We oversign by 1 ...

PG - Boswell/Harris
SG - Maddox/DGL
SF - Storr/Hill/Davis
PF - Amos/Rodgers/Goode
C - Morez/Amani/Booth/Jakstys as a redshirt
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One thing that's striking to me with this list is the in-state guys that are being targeted in the portal.

Boswell - Champaign
Maddox - Chicago Heights
Storr - Rockford
Hill - Rockford
Amos - Chicago

If this plays out our marketing team must be salivating at the in-state content potential.
 
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812Jamie

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IllianaOne said:
Larry is a bit too loose with the ball. In the BT he'd remind people too much of Curbelo, no thanks. I hope he returns to State.
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I can see that but his ratio wasn't bad. He didn't remind me of Curbelo at all. To me, he was much more under control the majority of the time.
 
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Piotyr

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I have a feeling that at least the majority of the Indiana State transfers end up with Schertz at SLU next season, so they can play a game of "how would an MVC team finish in the A-10?" for next year.
 
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