Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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nope as in no or that it's too much to ask for??

I woke up this morning thinking it was Friday, I need a(nother) win...

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Idk but he’s really good.. took some dumb shots against Alabama late but kid can play. I’d take him over Storr, if Storrs mama is to much baggage
 
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I last commented before we landed anyone in the portal. It seems that Brad is once again doing a bang up job. The BIG seems like it will be much deeper and loaded with more talent this year. Can't wait to see who we get for a wing and big man. Can an insider divulge any information looking forward as to Ty's role this next season? Thank You!
 
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i would like to know from the insiders....;. is there a short list of big men we have an eye on that anyone can tell us about?
it seems with the offense we are leaning toward, this list of pretty small, not your typical big man fit. unless we have a kid
coming back?
 
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@Rich .....I'll paraphrase what you stated: Does Illinois even want a TSJ player who shoulders the load. Uconn had a more balanced team and look at the success they had.

Oh course, the Illini would much rather have a balanced team of studs! Can you imagine if TSJ was on Uconn's team? He wouldn't have to dominate as much, and his game would be a bit different, his stats would be slightly "down", similiar to Dee, Deron, and Luther all had less mind-blowing stats, but all got the recognition they deserved.
Absolutely. One of the crazier takes that shows up each offseason on here is would we even want our generational talent on next season's roster primarily because the team who won it all had a different build. If TSJ were to be magically not allowed to go into the NBA draft this year and given another year of eligibility by the NCAA and he wants to come back to Illinois, yeah, I don't think you're going to say, "TSJ, when you lost to UCONN, we decided to build a mirror image of them and just don't see you as a good fit anymore. Sorry bro."

We didn't lose to UCONN because we built around TSJ, instead, UCONN beat us in spite of TSJ because their 1 thru 5 was arguably the most complete college team I've seen since the 90s and they also featured generational talent.

Simply, you want players like TSJ, Kofi, and Frank Williams on your team every year. They make you better, not worse.
 
#34      
I know we wanted a shooter in Maddox. It also had been mentioned Cam Christie may enter the portal and if so I expect him to take a jump in year 2 and certainly is a player i hope we would pursue.
 
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I would be irrationally excited if we managed to land Humrichous. To me he’s a combo of Domask and Minix but he’s 6’9 and a better 3 point shooter. The possibilities with him are endless. Bootyball? Check. Deadly stretch 4? Check. We could play super big and play him at the 3 or play small and put him at the 5. I don’t think he can be our PG but thankfully we’ve got Boswell this year. The lineup possibilities are endless and have the ability to create mismatches all over the court.

Show him the Domask tape, tack on a Step Brothers “possibly you!” And get it done.
 
#36      
Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Absolutely. One of the crazier takes that shows up each offseason on here is would we even want our generational talent on next season's roster primarily because the team who won it all had a different build. If TSJ were to be magically not allowed to go into the NBA draft this year and given another year of eligibility by the NCAA and he wants to come back to Illinois, yeah, I don't think you're going to say, "TSJ, when you lost to UCONN, we decided to build a mirror image of them and just don't see you as a good fit anymore. Sorry bro."

We didn't lose to UCONN because we built around TSJ, instead, UCONN beat us in spite of TSJ because their 1 thru 5 was arguably the most complete college team I've seen since the 90s and they also featured generational talent.

Simply, you want players like TSJ, Kofi, and Frank Williams on your team every year. They make you better, not worse.
Of course we'd take TSJ back if we could, but the point is we don't need a like-for-like replacement for him, and we shouldn't want to foist that role on a player.

TSJ wasn't cast as a dominant scorer, he seized that mantle for himself over the course of his two years here. It was an organic evolution of what he could provide versus what his teammates were bringing to the table in other areas.

It can be very good to have a player like that. But it can also be very good to have a more balanced offensive load.

We played good, unselfish offensive basketball last year. THAT was our strength, TSJ's big scoring output was just a natural outflow from that. Keep playing good unselfish offensive basketball with a sufficiently talented group and the points will land where they need to.

Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
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#38      
Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big

This is interesting. Was listening to Latulip on Werners pod and he said with what Illinois is wanting to do next year it makes way more sense to spend on a sure fire stud guard and just grab a serviceable big.

Figured give Maddox whatever then find a 5 where you can get it.
 
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Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big
Are those 2 big timers hinging on our next AC?
 
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Absolutely. One of the crazier takes that shows up each offseason on here is would we even want our generational talent on next season's roster primarily because the team who won it all had a different build. If TSJ were to be magically not allowed to go into the NBA draft this year and given another year of eligibility by the NCAA and he wants to come back to Illinois, yeah, I don't think you're going to say, "TSJ, when you lost to UCONN, we decided to build a mirror image of them and just don't see you as a good fit anymore. Sorry bro."

We didn't lose to UCONN because we built around TSJ, instead, UCONN beat us in spite of TSJ because their 1 thru 5 was arguably the most complete college team I've seen since the 90s and they also featured generational talent.

Simply, you want players like TSJ, Kofi, and Frank Williams on your team every year. They make you better, not worse.
I honestly think this board is afraid of greatness in some regard. It's very much a knee jerk reaction to overrate our roster (people were saying Sincere was going to be the next TSJ after his practice mixtape) and underrate generational, top 25 type talent, making things up out of thin air like "he's not an EDG" etc....

It's a cope that is leftover from the Weber/Groce years where we had to justify that "rankings don't matter" and that the kids we lost out on "were selfish, money chasing" and our 3 star guys where somehow superior. This irrational logic is how people kept sane, nut punch after nut punch.

Things have changed. and luckily, Brad and Josh aren't afraid of greatness. They have their sights on the big fish.
 
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If it's any consolation, remember when LvilleILL first raised Maddox as a name the staff is looking at it was to fill the Harmon role - come off the bench and create some offense - then all of a sudden he became the "missing piece" and this years version of RayJ - this is what is going to happen in free agency, a specific player all of a sudden becomes a hot commodity because he fills a specific role that a lot of teams need so it's a bidding war. It doesn't mean that person is any better of a player than he was before

I think Brad and staff have learned from last year and signing 4 players that have multiple years left and signing them now before they get too much interest is a great move - the top players will always want to let it play out a bit so we'll have to wait
 
#43      

Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
i would like to know from the insiders....;. is there a short list of big men we have an eye on that anyone can tell us about?
it seems with the offense we are leaning toward, this list of pretty small, not your typical big man fit. unless we have a kid
coming back?

if Antigua returns, I expect him to try to bring Ugonna Onyenso into the fold
 
#45      
Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big
Agreed on DGL.
 
#46      
Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big
Have these gentlemen entered the portal yet?
 
#47      
Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big
Sounds good.
 
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Have these gentlemen entered the portal yet?
I don't believe so. Jeff Goodman stated that there are some very good guys waiting on their last NIL checks to clear before entering the portal! I imagine some of the guys we are looking at are certainly amoung them.

I think Cam Christie would be a great wing to add if he is one of those Goodman was referring to. I have no idea if that was the case or what NIL $ the Goofers would have for Christie if he doesn't enter the draft but he would be a top target for several programs after his freshman season should he enter the portal. He would start about anywhere and impact games in year two or beyond. He took tough 3s and hit at 39.1%. Kid is long and can shoot.
 
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Maddox has a higher NIL offer from both Louisville and Xavier....
If your asking youselves how/why.....
Illinois has two big time guys lined up. They don't want to overspend for Maddox to put that in jeopardy.
All I will say for now. Things will get rolling soon..

The plan is to add another 2 guard, wing, and 5. No Maddox stinks, but part of me wants DGL to play that role as a bench scorer. Really high on his upside

I expect the two big time guys to be a wing and big
wow all kinds of interesting in there...

How lined up is "lined up"? And how soon is "soon"?

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#50      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
The initial insider statement about RayJ last year was "we're targeting better players than that".

You're right about the mechanics of free agency.

Not to in any way denigrate the truth of the statement, but just to observe that recruiting is fluid, things change.
 
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