With that being said...
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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We went into the season with 5 of our top 7 guys either guaranteed to be done or very likely to be done. Unless you all expected our deep bench guys to become our starters, we were always going to aim high in the portal and experience a lot of roster churn. If trying to get the best guys you can get to fill out your open spots is "pushing people out", then by all means push. If a player doesn't think he's good enough to beat out someone who is transferring in, then he probably isn't.I just did the obvious Top 2. But maybe today I'll break down more of the Top 15 to show that what we are doing is NOT the new norm in CBK.
The 4 guys we have added all have multiple years of eligibility left, so it's not as though the plan is to get 9 new players every year. Ideally, you have some continuity. The writing was on the wall for this off-season last May.
Would everyone be happier if we stubbornly handed all of our holdovers starting jobs and finished 8th in the B1G? How long do you think Brad would keep his job with that strategy?
If they guys departing agreed with you, they'd stay and kick the new guys behind in practice.
He's got that Luke Goode in him
I agree. It feels like we're going to see the downfall of college hoops and March madness in the next 10-20 years since the private equity model of chasing unlimited growth for a few at all costs has spread to Universities(and basically every other aspect of our society) that I think it's really only a matter of time until its ruined.
That being said Illinois is actually in a good position in basketball and honestly we're lucky Brad got in and turned the program around before the portal and NIL changes everything or it could be bleak.
They should have told him “we’re gonna bring in players that aren’t quite as good as you so we can assure you all the playing time you want.” /s
Wasn’t everyone warned that there will be more players transferring out? Some of you need to relax. 
Being part of a program for three years and being an integral part of the positive culture, and then going from fringe starter/6th man to being told your role will be reduced in your 4th season is being told “we appreciate you, but move on”.Agreeing or not with that talent assessment is subjective, but I dont know why that’s so hard for people to see that he was subtly encouraged to leave.
They also had 7+feet behemoth's.
Was it hard to root for Domask, TSJ, Qg or JH? By the time the season starts you’ll know our new roster and live some of them like any other team.
the national
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Luke said he is an Illini For Life.
I, for one, am a Goode Fan For Life.
I, for one, am a Goode Fan For Life.
If the incoming players aren't more talented, then by definition, the current player isn't being recruited over. The current player could stay, and the incoming player would be his backup. No reason to leave.
This is someone I was hoping would come our way. This would be a nice fish!Spent the morning doing some reformatting, reorganizing and updating the portal tracker spreadsheet. I've organized it now so that our committed transfers appear at the top, followed by uncommitted active targets. Those who have committed elsewhere have been sorted to the bottom. This should help a little bit with ease of use.
For those curious our insider crystal ball accuracy sits at a tidy 14/16 (88%) entries that have come to fruition. Not a ton of currently active ones, but one submission should catch some eyes here
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sacraig
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I don't think it will. It's not sustainable for staffs or the players. But it won't end until NIL contracts have more stipulations about number of years and penalties for leaving. Then that will naturally lead to a CBA.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
I concur..........my thoughts are luke is looking for a bigger bag of $$$ than we can afford and looking at the # 's being tossed around Luke might get a nice tidy sum......I hope he doesn't go to scUM............That would be a dagger to my heart to see a long time illini go to those punk arse scUM bums....................
Indinia still has Woodson so no matter how much talent the loosiers bring in , they will be under coached and lacking in basic fundamentals.......................
I had an 8 am appt with my doctor this morning so I'm just now getting into the meat & taters of today's news.........Also , went to Hell-mart and got some script refills......Need to med up and peruse the posts ........ta-ta.......................JMHO.........
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Not to go too off topic, but the reason this has infected even nominal non-profits like Universities is because it’s an ideology embedded in the culture of American business leadership. It’s not about the motivations or incentives of any given entity, it’s operating at a deeper level than that.
Simply incorrect, bad for business bad for humanity ideas are embedded and taken as given truisms across an ever larger number of domains.
The actual truth? It’s what I said earlier in the thread. The fans are the money. THAT is the coldly rational view. Cynical short-termism is just robbing from Peter to pay Paul.
Lol you're talking about Davis shooting .2 percentage points worse than Goode(38.7 vs 38.9). Davis has also shown the ability to be more dynamic shooting the ball being able to shoot on the move and come off screens(Goode is solely a set shooter). The shooting will translate.
Davis has also flashed a bit of ability to get to the rim when guys closeout to hard, that part might not translate but we will see.
Either way it's a moot point. Davis isn't the guy that pushed Goode out. It's the guys that are coming in that haven't committed yet.
I guess Nico was pushed out, too?
This is ridiculous. You are implying that his hand was forced. The staff could have brought in three centers and left the remaining spots open, resulting in a non-viable roster. By your reasoning, this would have forced Luke out because the circumstances made it clear that Brad was unconcerned with winning.
Luke was asked to stay and we all know that he would have the upper hand fighting for playing time. He's making an adult decision and going elsewhere. He could theoretically have had a stellar season starting here next year and still regretted not transferring. It's a choice.
Haha. That’s not the take here. Building a culture and an identity requires some glue guys and team players, of which Luke is both. As a player that bought into the necessary culture demands, to be recruited over, is not a good program move, especially when that dedicated player has a valued skill set. Anyone that’s ever been involved with JUCO athletics will understand this take.
As far as Goode being pushed out, there may be an opportunity that he wanted to pursue in Grad School or more NIL money. People need to chill. I love Luke but he has opportunities and may make more this year than some of us make in 5. I say go fur it!
Speaking of...when do grad program acceptance letters go out?
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