Does anyone know if he would be a grad transfer? I guess I assume so as a 5th year but not sure.
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Does anyone know if he would be a grad transfer? I guess I assume so as a 5th year but not sure.
We have to spend though - we’ll never have another opportunity to capitalize on last seasons success and get some big donors to contribute a little more for some real difference makers than right now. Fland would be huge from a future recruiting standpoint and David Jones would immediately replace TSJ. I have to think Brad could get the dollars to make a very competitive offer to both of them
We’ve been saving our dry powder for the big gets, we just need to make sure we can get 2 of them
At some point we have to win some that we aren’t the highest bidder on- like Humrichous, if he wants to go to the dumpster fire that is Louisville for a few more dollars than he isn’t an EDG- does he want to optimize one year cash or is he building a career in basketball and wants to set himself up for success, that would be the question
I'd be ok early in the season to see Ty play a little "Booty Ball" and see how it goes.
Exactly. And it's not my cash so I don't care.
RJ Melendez has entered the portal.
Agree, but where the cash starts mattering is when other programs have more. That’s the train wreck that is coming with NIL. I mean what if Microsoft committed $250 million to Gonzaga??? Just saying
Sending out a reminder this morning for everyone to REELLLLAAAXXX. As it currently stands, we have the #7 247 Portal Class, per reports a large portion of our NIL money left to spend, and we just picked up one of the best recruiters/assistant coaches in the country.
The future is no where near as bleak as the current sentiment on this board. Take a deep breath and smile y'all. It is a new, weird world of college hoops, but everything will be ok.
The future is no where near as bleak as the current sentiment on this board. Take a deep breath and smile y'all. It is a new, weird world of college hoops, but everything will be ok.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I know, I couldn't resist.I feel like some nuance of my post was lost here
To just put a very generalized point on it though, Humrichous is not a creator, he's not a distributor, he's not a guy you want the ball in the hands of all the time.
He's a dangerous weapon standing in the corner, and that threat opens up the floor for others to create.
Ty does like to post up, but if the shot isn't initially there for him it all goes awry.
Guys, booty ball was not a Brad Underwood thing, it's not a system Illinois is building towards, it's not a secret to unlock offensive performance, it was a solution to make the best of Marcus Domask's particular skills on a 5-out team with no real point guard.
Posting up a guard can always be a stealth weapon, especially against certain matchups, but running your whole offense through that action is a terrible idea unless you stumble into a weird set of player characteristics as we did last year.
To synthesize both of the above responses, we know very little about next year's team, but the one thing we can be sure of is the offense will be initiated by and run through Kylan Boswell, the 5-star starter for Pac12 champion Arizona. Our experiments with non-PG basketball are over for the time being.
ILBB94
Certified Expert of Nothing Particular
- Orlando, FL
Following up on comments from last thread…
There have been 57 different players on the roster according to Sports Reference during BU tenure three players have played 4 years with Illini.
1. Trent
2. Damonte
3. Coleman
To answer the question about players like Ayo and Kipper who went pro early, or played 4 years but started under Groce.
Players who played 4 including Groce time
1. Kipper Nichols
2. Aaron Jordan
3. Leron Black (if you include his injury redshirt sophomore year)
4. Samson Oladimeji
Players who left earlier for pros:
1. Ayo
2. Kofi
3. Giorgi
4. Leron (still had redshirt year)
Overall during BU tenure players by years played:
4+ = 3
3 = 11
2 = 14
1 = 29
There have been 57 different players on the roster according to Sports Reference during BU tenure three players have played 4 years with Illini.
1. Trent
2. Damonte
3. Coleman
To answer the question about players like Ayo and Kipper who went pro early, or played 4 years but started under Groce.
Players who played 4 including Groce time
1. Kipper Nichols
2. Aaron Jordan
3. Leron Black (if you include his injury redshirt sophomore year)
4. Samson Oladimeji
Players who left earlier for pros:
1. Ayo
2. Kofi
3. Giorgi
4. Leron (still had redshirt year)
Overall during BU tenure players by years played:
4+ = 3
3 = 11
2 = 14
1 = 29
I for one am appalled at your positive attitude at this time of great turmoil and mourning!Sending out a reminder this morning for everyone to REELLLLAAAXXX. As it currently stands, we have the #7 247 Portal Class, per reports a large portion of our NIL money left to spend, and we just picked up one of the best recruiters/assistant coaches in the country.
The future is no where near as bleak as the current sentiment on this board. Take a deep breath and smile y'all. It is a new, weird world of college hoops, but everything will be ok.
madillini4
Ozamataz Buckshank
- Millywaukee
Sending out a reminder this morning for everyone to REELLLLAAAXXX. As it currently stands, we have the #7 247 Portal Class, per reports a large portion of our NIL money left to spend, and we just picked up one of the best recruiters/assistant coaches in the country.
The future is no where near as bleak as the current sentiment on this board. Take a deep breath and smile y'all. It is a new, weird world of college hoops, but everything will be ok.
I was actually going to edit my post, but I ran out of time. Didn't know you only have 15 minutes to edit. (It sounds like we actually agree on what Humrichous is, but I guess I was hoping he could take a step forward as far as being a playmaker goes. I wonder if having a great lob target could help with that.). Anyway, I'll paste what I typed in my edit below:
Edit: Actually I'll elaborate a little bit. I wasn't really directly comparing players, I said they should study their actions as a model. But while I said something about Humrichous/Onyenso not approaching one of the best players in the world in proficiency, I could have probably worded that more strongly.
However, I do see Humrichous's effectiveness in the pick and roll as probably the primary way that he could become more than Quincy Guerrier version 2, except version 2 is a better shooter but worse rebounder.
But, if he can be good at running PnR, and do things like shoot over smaller defenders, shoot over defenders going under the screen, or putting a defender in jail on his back that goes over and then making a play, then I think we're getting somewhere. And along those lines, I think Onyenso becoming an elite lob target is perhaps the easiest way to boost his previously lackluster offensive output. But to do that he needs a good PnR ball handler/shooter/passer to work with. That could be someone like Boswell or maybe even Coleman if he comes back, but it also seems like Humrichous could potentially play that role well too.
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I see Humrichious being a version of Rienk Mast with better shooting and worse defense. Solid pickup overall though if we got him.
Sounds like you could use a helping hand this morning.I for one am appalled at your positive attitude at this time of great turmoil and mourning!
Mast does also have a pretty decent back-to-the-basket post bag, though. Haven't really seen that much from the Humrichous stuff I've seen.
For a quick comparison of Domask to Humrichous
In high school, Domask state player of the year, Humrichous honorable mention All State.
In college, Domask went to a mid-major where he was Fr of the year, and 2nd team all conference 2 times, and 1st team once. The only year he wasn't at least 2nd team was his injury year. Humrichous went to NAIA for 3 years. Don't know if he had any awards there, I'd guess he did, but then 1 year in the same mid-major conference where he was honorable mention All conference. Humrichous actually scored more and shot much better from 3 at Evansville than he did at the NAIA school. Humrichous also struggled in all but 1 game against a tough opponent last year. It's not going to get easier going to the Big Ten.
I think Humrichous could be good if he is a role player. But if we're looking for him to be a key cog, I'm less optimistic.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Two things.
1. PNR ballhandling just isn't Humrichous' game. The section in his portal highlights video titled "ball screen handler" has like zero actual ball screens. He shoots or does a straight line drive. He will pass out of those situations, he definitely seems like a player who has his head up (all of his highlighted blocks are of the "come out of nowhere on the helpside" variety), that's encouraging. But he's a different type of player than one you want initiating PNR, it's just kind of a category error.
2. We now have a great PNR ballhandler! You mention the possibility of Onyenso, Boswell and a similar-ish player in Oumar Ballo killed teams with their PNR actions. THAT'S our Luka Doncic.
And add Humrichous as a knockdown shooting threat in the strong side corner as the next pass keeping the help away? We are cooking with gas folks.
Our old friend RJ has gone portaling again. Boom! TJ replacement . . . /s
Agree bro deacon ...I for one am appalled at your positive attitude at this time of great turmoil and mourning!
Something is coming with coach Antigua returning to Illinois. I think a big or two.
Regarding Goode ..
I appreciate his effort and time as an Illini and wish him well.
If he goes to Indiana he likely will be a Miller Hopp clone shooting 3s from the corner with limited rebounding potential.
If recall this past season Goode got pushed around under the hoop a number of times and in a case or two, coach BU pulled Goode and put Guerier back in the game. Just my take.
blackdog
- Champaign
I disagree with this. He's obviously not a post up guy but he was 97th percentile in scoring efficiency as a PnR ball handler and his assist rate is similar to Coleman with less turnovers. He is absolutely not going to be the primary ball handler like Domask turned into or a first scoring option like TSJ but he can definitely be a guy who can create for himself and others. I would almost compare his offensive impact to a better version of Coleman.
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