Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL

Desmond Claude checks in at #36 on the 247 Portal rankings.

Humrichous does not appear among the 368 players ranked. Jake Davis does. (That's not remotely justifiable given the programs recruiting Humrichous, but the list says what it says)

Loyalty, who would you rather have if you could only have one?

(I know it isn't the same position, quiet down and answer the question)
 
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Desmond Claude checks in at #36 on the 247 Portal rankings.

Humrichous does not appear among the 368 players ranked. Jake Davis does. (That's not remotely justifiable given the programs recruiting Humrichous, but the list says what it says)

Loyalty, who would you rather have if you could only have one?

(I know it isn't the same position, quiet down and answer the question)

The Athletic has Humrichous at 116 on their list, which goes to 161.

https://theathletic.com/5360188/2024/04/24/ncaa-transfers-portal-rankings-list/ ($$)
 
#104      
True. Apparently, it seems some now believe Loyalty is a place that can get you to a place where you can find and enjoy casual dating with real women.

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When's the last time a project big worked for us? I guess you could say Maverick Morgan & Giorgi would the only one's that come to mind semi recently. Mike Davis a while ago. They're usually not a very high hit rate.
You have 13 roster spots to fill. What's that harm in kicking the tires?

Also, I would argue Coleman was a project big which would make 2 big hits for Brad in 8 years with him and Giorgi.

Worst case scenario he's not good, never cracks the rotation, and goes the way of Omar Payne.
 
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Desmond Claude checks in at #36 on the 247 Portal rankings.

Humrichous does not appear among the 368 players ranked. Jake Davis does. (That's not remotely justifiable given the programs recruiting Humrichous, but the list says what it says)

Loyalty, who would you rather have if you could only have one?

(I know it isn't the same position, quiet down and answer the question)
Not sure how you answer it without accounting for position. Your question seems to really be asking, if you could only have 1, which would you rather have - a stretch 4 or a big athletic wing. I assume everyone would take the wing. In your scenario, the answer changes depending on whether we would also have David Jones (or someone like him) or not.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
Not sure I said it wasn’t a tournament team but I definitely thought that was a risk and that it was going to be a fundamentally flawed team that was much less than the sum of its parts, parts that I recognized to be of very high quality.
Iron: "This Illinois team is a sure fire tournament team in my book"

ChiefGritty: "I cannot agree, unfortunately."

Always gotta keep the receipts, just in case.
 
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Desmond Claude checks in at #36 on the 247 Portal rankings.

Humrichous does not appear among the 368 players ranked. Jake Davis does. (That's not remotely justifiable given the programs recruiting Humrichous, but the list says what it says)

Loyalty, who would you rather have if you could only have one?

(I know it isn't the same position, quiet down and answer the question)
I’ll bite- I’ll take Humrichous given our current roster. Claude is a better all around player but we don’t need a PG and a wing that shoots 23% from three and takes 3.3 of them a game is not good for the team (why did he keep shooting them?)

Xavier recruited over Claude for a reason
 
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RichardKeenesCousin

Richard Keene's Cousin
Iron: "This Illinois team is a sure fire tournament team in my book"

ChiefGritty: "I cannot agree, unfortunately."

Always gotta keep the receipts, just in case.
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You have 13 roster spots to fill. What's that harm in kicking the tires?

Also, I would argue Coleman was a project big which would make 2 big hits for Brad in 8 years with him and Giorgi.

Worst case scenario he's not good, never cracks the rotation, and goes the way of Omar Payne.
Not sure how much eligibility Mor Seck has, but nothing wrong with contacting him now to be better positioned for when the kid enters portal after next season. Start building relationship now.
 
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Iron: "This Illinois team is a sure fire tournament team in my book"

ChiefGritty: "I cannot agree, unfortunately."

Always gotta keep the receipts, just in case.
In his defense, not agreeing that a team is a sure fire tournament team, is not the same thing as saying that they are not a tournament team.
 
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Not sure I said it wasn’t a tournament team but I definitely thought that was a risk and that it was going to be a fundamentally flawed team that was much less than the sum of its parts, parts that I recognized to be of very high quality.

I thought it was a senseless and inexplicable failure to put together the complete components of a basketball team. It really bothered me that we’d done the hard part and screwed up the easy part.

I couldn’t imagine how fluidly we’d be able to play on offense, in that sense I was completely wrong.

Assuming we add some size to the mix here, I don’t foresee those kinds of worries next year. It’s going to be a question of how a brand new roster comes together from a culture perspective I think.

Frankly, if we project Ben Humrichous as a prominent offensive focal point next year, I feel safe assuming I will be less negative and gloomy than many others. We need and are seeking a player or two here who would push Gentle Ben down the pecking order where he belongs.

I’m not doom and gloom in the slightest at the moment, to be clear. I feel like I like our portal additions thus far more than most. I’m talking myself into Tre White more by the day. The only thing he needs to change is everything, and the sky is the limit!

(I’m also at a place with BU where I’m not going to freak out if next season turns into a disaster, and I know that it would be very very different for many posters.)
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#1 It didn't exactly sound like you had them penciled into the tourney :LOL:
#2 Thank the good lord you don't see these kinds of worries next year. Would be quite a conundrum if the "2024-2025 Illini were totally, unavoidably screwed" or our best 5 weren't a basketball team.
#3 Now we're hearing it about Tre White. Jab the kid some more.
 
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Desmond Claude checks in at #36 on the 247 Portal rankings.

Humrichous does not appear among the 368 players ranked. Jake Davis does. (That's not remotely justifiable given the programs recruiting Humrichous, but the list says what it says)

Loyalty, who would you rather have if you could only have one?

(I know it isn't the same position, quiet down and answer the question)
Ben Humrichous
 
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Of course, I'm hoping that Illinois can get a transfer from 7'0" 247 lbs. Kentucky sophomore center Ugonna Onyenso. He's the type of long, athletic, rim protector that Illinois really needs. Perhaps his connection with Coach Antigua will help with this recruitment. I also think that 6'11" 235 lbs. Ohio State sophomore center Felix Okpara would be an excellent addition via the transfer portal. He too has length and athleticism, and he's almost as good as Onyenso at blocking shots. Watching the Illinois/OSU game this season, I noticed how well Okpara moved on the court, and how many shots he contested or blocked. His offensive game is primarily dunks off lobs, but his back to the basket game seems to be improving. Coach Antigua could help him to further improve that aspect of his offensive game. Do any Insiders know if Illinois has interest in Okpara, or if we have contacted him?
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Iron: "This Illinois team is a sure fire tournament team in my book"

ChiefGritty: "I cannot agree, unfortunately."

Always gotta keep the receipts, just in case.
See, this is exactly why I never offer an opinion concerning basketball in these threads. ;)
 
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At worst, he's a decent role player next year. At best, he's a really good big ten starter. Guy that is 6'9, skilled, and shoots 42% from three. There's a reason why a ton of power 5 schools want him.......
You’re ruining the narrative that he’s another slow guy from a mid major. See Marcus Domask.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Iron: "This Illinois team is a sure fire tournament team in my book"

ChiefGritty: "I cannot agree, unfortunately."

Always gotta keep the receipts, just in case.
Good stuff, I didn't know where to go looking for that.

The word "Domask" appears nowhere in the litany of replies that we were fine at point guard.

The statement that Ty Rodgers could not play that role was 100% correct. The statement that Justin Harmon couldn't either and wasn't really good enough to be a major contributor was also 100% correct.

I feel like this statement I made in that thread puts it in a sensible light:

"The GOOD news is that because this roster is very good in terms of passing up and down the lineup, plus a higher degree of familiarity with each other and the system, the demands on that PG position are not super high. We don't need some master orchestrator there. But we do need a point guard.

I would not be shocked if one of DGL, Sincere, Moretti or Harmon (in that order) turns out to give us just enough to allow the strength of the rest of the roster to shine through and avoid a disastrous mess. I would be shocked if a Rodgers, TSJ, Domask, Hawkins, Dainja type lineup is viable. We're gonna look like we did against Arkansas when we couldn't run anything and real guards were just taking the ball away from us at will."


We were all underrating Guerrier, especially his ability to make Hawkins a viable 5 in a 5 out system.

But no one foresaw Domask as a functional Big Ten point guard, no poster, not Domask himself, not Underwood himself. The construction of that roster DID fail, we put all of our eggs in the RayJ basket and got caught too late to recover when that fell apart.

We got a miracle, a miracle that only great coaching and strategic flexibility (plus a super high underlying talent level) could unlock, but a miracle all the same. We won't need a miracle this time around, at least we shouldn't. It's a bad idea to rely on them.

I dunno, I don't really like tooting my own horn on this, and my analysis in that thread led to objectively incorrect conclusions. But the analysis was also more sound than anyone who disagreed. I am not ashamed of anything wrote there.

(Unlike, by way of counterexample, being a Lovie believer way, way longer than I should have been. That was just a failure to look at what was right in front of my face.)
 
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