Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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ILBB94

Certified Expert of Nothing Particular
Orlando, FL
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As far as it being a “weakness” that he struggled to guard bulkier 5s on the block, he’s not being drafted to play 5 and NBA teams generally aren’t throwing the ball to bangers down low.
But in fact, power-ball in the paint is still important in the NBA. Sure, 3's are more important and so are slashing drives, but watching a guy like Jokic reveals the amazing combination of finesse and brute power he (for example) uses as part of his complete offensive game. Watching Chet Holmgren block shots but also get tossed around like a rag doll last week is another example of how low-post power is still an important -- not even close to dominant, though -- part of the NBA game.
 
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NASchamp

Atlanta
I think the big key is the NCAA transfer rules changing for grad transfers, which is what Coleman specifically references in his tweet.
All the angst on here about Coleman portaling (and people saying no chance) was before the NCAA approved the changes to their transfer rules that included that grad-transfers must be in the portal by 5/1 instead of being able to enter/transfer after the closing date.

To me, that's the key change in the last two weeks.

No, I get that. I never doubted that he would put his name into the portal. Or even that it made some sense that he wouldn’t necessarily come back to Illinois.

What I don’t get is the insider narrative shift from ‘he would never transfer’ to now ‘it’s a good possibility’. That didn’t change because a new deadline got introduced…
 
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What weakness??? What part of CH is not a 5 don’t you understand???? In reality his natural position is small forward!!! See Michael Porter from the Denver Nuggets as an example. He was forced to guard everyone’s center because we had no choice!!!
 
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Booth did not come here to play the 5 ...

Morez does not work with Coleman IMO ... If we want to play like we did last year ...

Morez would be in more of the Dainja role ...
Booth may be playing on perimeter in a 5-out offense. But I will bet my beach house that he will be guarding the biggest opponent player most of his minutes. If Coleman does not want to guard the 5, no reason Booth doesn’t solve that.
 
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That would be an off-season failure of pretty epic propositions.

IF it got to the point, we'd have to take the O & B goggles off and really examine the fact that we may not have the product to sell that we think that we do and our NIL isn't what it's being portrayed to be.

For a "lifer" like CH to bail(IF HE DID), that would be absolutely brutal.

Coming off of an Elite 8, our stocked probably couldn't be higher.

I think that before anyone gets to that point, let's see how things play out in the next week or so.
 
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Honestly - going to disagree here ... I think that the way we played didn't allow Coleman to show off his defensive versatility ... It showed his weakness more than it did his strengths ...

That frustrated him this season ... It wasn't a secret ...
yep, kid doesn't belong as a 5 defensively and was best suited at the 4 (shoot, even at the 3 in some instances). Coleman playing the 5 got destroyed by big powerful post players, and often he looked disinterested in defending it. While I can't blame him, I think he did it to help the team, not himself. Though, I think the staff would ensure he doesn't have to play the 5 this year if he did come back.
 
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Booth may be playing on perimeter in a 5-out offense. But I will bet my beach house that he will be guarding the biggest opponent player most of his minutes. If Coleman does not want to guard the 5, no reason Booth doesn’t solve that.
Nice point.
 
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Booth may be playing on perimeter in a 5-out offense. But I will bet my beach house that he will be guarding the biggest opponent player most of his minutes. If Coleman does not want to guard the 5, no reason Booth doesn’t solve that.
You might lose your beach house. No indication that Booth is a plus defender. Tall, but not much heft. He might foul out before he gets 20 minutes in.
 
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SactownIllini

Coleman Hawkinsland
I can’t find it now, but Coleman clearly alluded to where he was transferring when he posted on X “Stingers Up.” He’s transferring to Sacramento State.

(An aside, having played basketball in Sac State’s main gym a few times, I was shocked that it was smaller than my small town Illinois high school gym. Gotta love D1 basketball!)
 
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hooraybeer

Pittsburgh, PA
regardless of who we do or don't get in the portal it would be so so painful to see CH playing elsewhere in CBB next year and would represent either a clear misallocation of resources or the most definitive evidence yet that the NIL $ just isn't there for us
 
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Is he going to be better than Boswell, or Fears? No
That's why I said it depends on "need". In this age of CBB who knows if either of those two will still be here. And maybe Moretti will blow up like Podz. It's just a thought. I just thought it would be cool since it doesn't happen very often if at all. Also, I could be wrong but doesn't Boswell only have two years left whereas Moretti has three. So, two years honing his skills at a mid-major and then the third back. Again, just a thought.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
regardless of who we do or don't get in the portal it would be so so painful to see CH playing elsewhere in CBB next year and would represent either a clear misallocation of resources or the most definitive evidence yet that the NIL $ just isn't there for us
For me, personally, there is no player or combination of players that would make up for losing Hawk to another school. I doubt it'll happen, but we're also in a world where anything feels like it can and will happen.
 
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The last thing Coleman Hawkins wants is to return to college basketball, but if that's where the most guaranteed money is...

It's all agent driven, maximizing opportunities, which is what anyone would do in this current environment.
 
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We should be able to freak out if coleman wont come because he would have to play as the 5 if we aren't able to land a 5 it should be a major red flag
 
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