Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Indy Illini Fan said:
Idk if bargain is the right word ... Top 50 kids aren't cheap ... We got 3 of them ...
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fair enough, i'm still scarred from being told how much guys like storr wanted and that we can get close to the same production for less. time to put up
 
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Indy Illini Fan

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TheGreatDebate said:
Is that one program Illinois?
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They were not the program I was told ... But if he does enter ...

I can guarantee you that we will be very aggressive ... Brad gonna put the Big Dog on that one ...

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Indy, if you know one school has 1.5 set aside, do you feel Illinois will match or go higher ?

Edit: never mind answered thank you!
 
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CoachHooleyHoo

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ptgrd23 said:
We are coming off 29-9 BTT champion, Elite 8 season, lost to NCAA champion and people are complaining about team roster construction.

Roster was excellent
- got All American TSJ to return for 5th year
- got 3rd team All big ten Coleman to return for 4th year
- Brought in 1st team all big 10 Marcus Domask to give us great 2nd scoring option and handle ball vs press and half court trap
- Brought in 5th year senior starter Quincy who provide solid 3 point shooting and rebounding
- Brought in 5th year CG Justin provided 3 point shooting, PG defense and ball handling

Brad did a fantastic job in roster construction and coaching last season. He was not lucky getting Domask. He recruited him because he knew Marcus would help.
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WyattEarp

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Frank said:
Statistically, this is absolutely true, but I think we underestimate the value of players with a reliable midrange jumper. As the game tightens up and defenses key in on stopping shots at the rim and 3s, sometimes a good midrange shot is the best "clean" shot one can get. You see this happen in the NBA playoffs, where midrange aficionados become relatively more valuable when the games matter most (example). Domask was the guy generating our best offense against UConn (our only offense really), and his game is mostly pull up/step back/turnaround jumpers. Ayo made a killing for 3 years with a deadly midrange game; how many of his game winners/crunch time buckets were midrange shots? (don't have a number but it was a lot -- just watch his highlight videos)

All in all, you're right about the stats and there's a reason the game has trended towards the shot chart on the right, but I think people sometimes draw too straight a line from the stats to 'midrange = bad', while the most competitive basketball games still show us that it has a lot of value. To the larger point about Ty Rodgers shot, I agree that him developing a midrange likely doesn't change much, since he's never going to be automatic like Domask/Ayo were. Better to have 1-2 guys capable of being midrange assasins surrounded by true long-range shooters, much like our team build this year. If Ty could shoot even 28-30% from 3, he'd be a different player, but we don't even know what he'd shoot from distance since he doesn't even look at the basket. That, to me, is the biggest problem and I'm a bit skeptical that an offseason of heavy practice will alleviate that in-game mental barrier.
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👍 Exactly. Thank You!
(Frankly, Frank…I appreciate your frank opinion on this. I agree wholeheartedly.

I mean a team might have the high-falootin’ goal of channeling Nate Oats & attempting to shoot only trays or dunks…

But what happens (at the college level) when:
a.) You face a team that is effective at chasing guys off the line
b.) You face a team that plays drop coverage and dares you to shoot high post jumpers around the free-throw line all night? (Those shots become gold…if you can knock a few of em down obviously)
c.) You can’t hit the broad side of an aircraft carrier that night. (live by the 3, die by the three…it’s still a thing)

This is still College basketball. It hasn’t gone full NBA just. If you’re going to play that way you have to have shooters. Curry’s and Thompson’s don’t grow on trees here; anymore than Edey, Clingan and Kofi(s) do.

Those 3 are unicorns but some teams will always utilize post play like that…albeit sparingly… It’s just too good not to use it at least some…particularly if you aren’t able to get a couple of floor-spacing snipers on your roster. Traditional post-play, obviously wont be as prevalent. But it isn’t gonna totally go away. If you don’t believe me:

Exhibit A: UConn (Clingan)
Exhibit B: Purdue (Edey)

*both teams were very much a new spin on OLD school stuff…but the best thing they had going for them…they weren’t one trick ponies. One trick ponies get exposed eventually. Really those teams were as dominant as they were because they were well rounded…and could do several things well.

The two best teams in basketball last year. But you’d never know it from the “everybody needs to be 6ft 8 on this roster, and you basically have be Alabama /Houston 2.0 prototypes to win”
 
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Indy Illini Fan said:
They were not the program I was told ... But if he does enter ...

I can guarantee you that we will be very aggressive ... Brad gonna put the Big Dog on that one ...

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This is why we paid what we did for Antigua and this is where he excels!!!!
 
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ChiefGritty said:
BU recruited his way into a straitjacket and handcuffs at the bottom of a lake and coached his way out of it. …….

Let's make it easier this time!
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Indy Illini Fan said:
Lot of rumors going around about this one ... Sounds like could be entering the portal ...

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As I said a few days ago in an earlier post, my friend that works at Creighton said there was a lot of chatter about him entering the portal....wouldn't surprise me at all.....if so we need to gather up our coins and go ....
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Can Illinois do $1.5M for Kalk and then also add a wing and another piece. That's a lot of money and I'm skeptical they can do that.

Love the idea of getting Kalk but at that price I just don't see it.
 
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