Is everybody gonna be sitting around the Coleman campfire telling stories of his Illini greatness and 4 years of unwavering loyalty if he knocks us out of the tourney next season?
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It's going to be weird seeing him play for UNC (really hope it's not them) or whoever, but he's left in the absolute best possible way and he's reinforced the #33 as an iconic number for us
Anyone ever work the same job, in the same position for several years and start to feel like their personal growth is slowing & they need a new challenge? We don't have to sit out of work for a year to make that change. Now players don't either. It doesn't make anyone "the bad guy". Sometimes even good relationships run their course.
The goal posts have moved in several ways. One of which being that a 4-year commitment used to be the gold standard for "loyalty". Coleman gave us his best for 4 years, helped hang banners, and earned his degree, which is as much or more than almost all of our most beloved Illini athletes.
If you want to turn him into a villain for wanting to grow outside this specific bubble, that's your prerogative. I won't.
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Why would Brad want that?
1. Odds of that actually happening?
2. Very doubtful it would be only Colemans doing if that were to happen.
3. Yes because that would still have nothing to do with all the things he accomplished here in an Illini uniform.
I have zero issue with Coleman Hawkins playing next season at a different school next year. He gave his all for 4 years and wants to move on to something else which is the typical route for student athletes. Hope he gets some money and wins some games that don't affect the Illini. Our roster isn't really built for him to come back now anyway. Everyone moved on and everyone seems OK with that.
College basketball is way fun more now.
I don't really want to excuse the NCAA but the NBA doesn't have to use a lot of its profit to subsidize all the other college sports.
The truth of the matter is that the revenue producing sports allow all the other sports to exist at college.
I'm happy to see kids getting paid(especially in football) but I don't want to see the end of Olympic sports at the college level simply since they don't produce revenue. !!!! women's basketball would be on life support at most colleges.
blackdog
- Champaign
Yea that sounds like a problem for them not the players. Its generally not a good idea to be blaming other people for your emotions.
sounds like we got priced out
Is Brad still cooking or are we waiting for the dominos to fall?
Or are we ordering Dominos
Low and slow baby
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Rather than this cacophony of self-congratulation over rejecting criticisms of Hawkins that don't actually exist, let's surface the factual issue here:
My belief in Dain Dainja notwithstanding, it was previous just objectively the case that we had gained much, much more in the portal than we had lost in value terms.
If Hawkins enters the "portal loss" column, that dramatically changes things and makes it a much closer call as it stands.
(Whether you consider Ivisic a freshman recruit or a portal entry matters a lot in that calculus, it's admittedly hard to be strictly apples-to-apples about it)
My belief in Dain Dainja notwithstanding, it was previous just objectively the case that we had gained much, much more in the portal than we had lost in value terms.
If Hawkins enters the "portal loss" column, that dramatically changes things and makes it a much closer call as it stands.
(Whether you consider Ivisic a freshman recruit or a portal entry matters a lot in that calculus, it's admittedly hard to be strictly apples-to-apples about it)
Yes but it’s not about NIL with Coleman entering the portal /S it’s about wanting to do something different his last season /
what does he want to do differently?? He’s played at the 4 and 5 here and sometimes even at the point. He’s won multiple championships. Stop sugar coating it it’s all about the $$$$$)
what does he want to do differently?? He’s played at the 4 and 5 here and sometimes even at the point. He’s won multiple championships. Stop sugar coating it it’s all about the $$$$$)I don’t understand this logic. If Coleman has an opportunity to secure higher $$$ going elsewhere, it would be a mistake on his part not to move on. He mentioned this in his interview that being loyal to Illinois this past year cost him.
He has to do what is best for him.
Exactly ...bro Hawk is an Illini and more power to him to get his NIL $ where he can.
DB11Headband
- Chicago Burbs
Not the best dude in the locker room. Not happening.
Copy and paste for Wooga too
We’re going to see many schools reducing men’s non-revenue sports over the next decade (Title IX will protect women’s sports as long as football allows 85 scholarships).
Athlete unions, collective bargaining and direct payments (revenue share) from schools to athletes is coming a lot sooner than anyone thinks. And there still will be NIL (ie endorsement deals) on top of that for the true stars who develop a following.
Biggest question in my mind is where “academics” winds up in all of this. Who will be the college President to say “no more” for the first time since U. of Chicago did it in the 1930s?
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DB11Headband
- Chicago Burbs
Oh you just wait. It's coming.
I don't think there's a single soul on here who would argue the opposite.
Kostas
- Naperville, IL
NBA doesn't own the stadiums and isn't responsible for building and maintaining facilities.
NBA isn't responsible for funding MLB, NHL, NWSL, American Figure Skating, ATP, Professional Kickball Federation, etc.
NBA's core mission isn't to provide a public service (Education), life skills (provides income, but not life skills), and diverse knowledge (reason engineers have to take literature and other gen Eds/ pre-reqs).
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