Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Illini4Christ
Indy Illini Fan said:
He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...

His shooting from deep has really, really fallen off this spring (20%) ... Think he's like 40% from the field ...

He doesn't like to play defense and he's not big enough right now to play defense against HM guards ... Especially these COVID year guys ...

And so far this spring/summer he's averaged more turnovers than assists ...

Now - I still think the kid can be a good player but none of those numbers scream I'm ready for HM basketball right now ... And they definitely don't scream anywhere near the asking price NIL wise ...

They scream to me he needs another year of development at the HS level and then more development once he gets into college ... Probably a multi year guy ...

But that's just my 2 cents ... 🤷‍♂️
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You’re always right. I say you can add that he needs to get Fletched!

I hate it for the kid and all the players that may take the wrong decision and turn. He and guys parents need to be careful because the wrong school and system can cost him millions in the draft later.
 
#252      
NashvILLe05
Indy Illini Fan said:
He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...

His shooting from deep has really, really fallen off this spring (20%) ... Think he's like 40% from the field ...

He doesn't like to play defense and he's not big enough right now to play defense against HM guards ... Especially these COVID year guys ...

And so far this spring/summer he's averaged more turnovers than assists ...

Now - I still think the kid can be a good player but none of those numbers scream I'm ready for HM basketball right now ... And they definitely don't scream anywhere near the asking price NIL wise ...

They scream to me he needs another year of development at the HS level and then more development once he gets into college ... Probably a multi year guy ...

But that's just my 2 cents ... 🤷‍♂️
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He’s ranked #38 in class of 2025, per 247. Any idea what ranking he’ll have once he reclasses to 2024? It sure won’t be in line with the kind of money he’s asking for.
 
#254      
Keisersose
ChiefGritty said:
If we want to be mature about it, JCL was basically exactly what Fears is.

Groce brought a lot of talent to Champaign, not as much as he should have and he couldn't do anything with the talent he had, but it was there.
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I remember saying that no one in the conference would have a better core group than our Nunn, Hill, Black trio.

We never got the PG to run with those guys.
 
#255      
BretMyBeachHouse
The reclassify issue is going to cause quite a bit of heartburn. As just noted with NIL getting the payday early is a huge incentive. Some guys will be ready to contribute and be worth it. Others not.

It seems like Fears was tight with Morez. Hope this doesn't impact him.
 
#257      
PepeSilvia
jamarvelous31 said:
If you listen to the Sleepers guys it could all be a sign that Boswell isn't the solution this year. It seems pretty obvious they heard the Fears rumor.
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We will likely have to see how the freshman look but if Kasparis is as good as advertised he will be better than what I saw from Boswell at Arizona.

Now, there is no reason that they couldn't play at the same time but you get a huge matchup advantage from having a 6'5 pg and being able to run out 5 players that are all 6'5+.

I think the size and athleticism issues that last year's team caused for other teams is overlooked as a reason for their success. Opposing teams(except UConn who was similarly big but had an exceptional 7 footer) just couldn't keep the Illini off the boards or from scoring inside. The only two teams we really struggled with had 7'2 and 7'4 guys that went top 10 in the NBA draft(Edey was over drafted imo - also like our chances in a 3rd matchup).

Some combination of a 6'5 Kasparis, 6'6 Ty, 6'7 Tre, 6'9 Riley, 6'9 Humrichous, 6'9 Morez, 6'10 Booth, and 7'1 Ivisic would create huge matchup problems for most opposing teams.
 
#258      
Fly Illini Fly!
NashvILLe05 said:
He’s ranked #38 in class of 2025, per 247. Any idea what ranking he’ll have once he reclasses to 2024? It sure won’t be in line with the kind of money he’s asking for.
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Along those lines...just curious...

do we know when Riley's ranking for 2024 on 247 will come out? On3, Rivals have both updated him into 2024. Still waiting on 247.
 
#260      
LJ22
Indy Illini Fan said:
I can't tell if you're being serious or not ...

There is a 0% chance Ayo was coming here with Groce as HC ...
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Not saying Ayo would have come here with Groce at the helm. But I think being his second offer (and first real offer) was good.
 
#261      
doowink
blackdog said:
Um what

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807839933559640242
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#267      
SAELION
Illini4Christ said:
You’re always right. I say you can add that he needs to get Fletched!

I hate it for the kid and all the players that may take the wrong decision and turn. He and guys parents need to be careful because the wrong school and system can cost him millions in the draft later.
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Well he can get his bag for one year then portal to the Illini!
 
#268      
PizzaHutParkingLot
Indy Illini Fan said:
He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...

His shooting from deep has really, really fallen off this spring (20%) ... Think he's like 40% from the field ...

He doesn't like to play defense and he's not big enough right now to play defense against HM guards ... Especially these COVID year guys ...

And so far this spring/summer he's averaged more turnovers than assists ...

Now - I still think the kid can be a good player but none of those numbers scream I'm ready for HM basketball right now ... And they definitely don't scream anywhere near the asking price NIL wise ...

They scream to me he needs another year of development at the HS level and then more development once he gets into college ... Probably a multi year guy ...

But that's just my 2 cents ... 🤷‍♂️
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Appreciate the scouting report! If the Fears camp wants Kasparas money, his handlers must be smoking something good…
 
#269      
RabidDawgClassic
PizzaHutParkingLot said:
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Appreciate the scouting report! If the Fears camp wants Kasparas money, his handlers must be smoking something good…
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Hey… who would’ve thought Coleman Hawkins would’ve commanded $2 million back when everyone laughed at AJ Storr wanting one million. The price tags are skyrocketing daily, so you don’t necessarily have to be on the wacky weed to toss out an absurd number hoping someone will bite.
 
#270      
PepeSilvia
RabidDawgClassic said:
Hey… who would’ve thought Coleman Hawkins would’ve commanded $2 million back when everyone laughed at AJ Storr wanting one million. The price tags are skyrocketing daily, so you don’t necessarily have to be on the wacky weed to toss out an absurd number hoping someone will bite.
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I'd rather drop that money on a proven player at the college level.

It would be a different story if you were guaranteed to get a freshman for 3-4 years but guys bounce yearly now so I'd take the proven contributor over a freshman every day.

Especially over a small guard that's reclassing. Feel like they typically struggle early.
 
#271      
illinifan1987
Indy Illini Fan said:
He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...

His shooting from deep has really, really fallen off this spring (20%) ... Think he's like 40% from the field ...

He doesn't like to play defense and he's not big enough right now to play defense against HM guards ... Especially these COVID year guys ...

And so far this spring/summer he's averaged more turnovers than assists ...

Now - I still think the kid can be a good player but none of those numbers scream I'm ready for HM basketball right now ... And they definitely don't scream anywhere near the asking price NIL wise ...

They scream to me he needs another year of development at the HS level and then more development once he gets into college ... Probably a multi year guy ...

But that's just my 2 cents ... 🤷‍♂️
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#272      
New Creation
Indy Illini Fan said:
He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...

His shooting from deep has really, really fallen off this spring (20%) ... Think he's like 40% from the field ...

He doesn't like to play defense and he's not big enough right now to play defense against HM guards ... Especially these COVID year guys ...

And so far this spring/summer he's averaged more turnovers than assists ...

Now - I still think the kid can be a good player but none of those numbers scream I'm ready for HM basketball right now ... And they definitely don't scream anywhere near the asking price NIL wise ...

They scream to me he needs another year of development at the HS level and then more development once he gets into college ... Probably a multi year guy ...

But that's just my 2 cents ... 🤷‍♂️
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#273      
PepeSilvia
Indy Illini Fan said:
He's a small guard ... 6'2 in shoes ...
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I'm not saying he's not talented or he's going to be a good player(making the U-18 American team is a good sign).

But I've always wondered why his people seemed so high on a 6'2 guard being a one and done or even two and done(with a reclass) type player.

Any guard that small has to be truly truly special to be picked that high. Sheppard had to shoot over 50% from 3 and Dillingham had to shoot 44% for them to be picked that high.

Jamal Shead and Mark Sears were the two best guards in the country and neither were hyped in the NBA draft. Sears ended up returning and Shead probably should have.
 
#274      
Brosky
PepeSilvia said:
We will likely have to see how the freshman look but if Kasparis is as good as advertised he will be better than what I saw from Boswell at Arizona.

Now, there is no reason that they couldn't play at the same time but you get a huge matchup advantage from having a 6'5 pg and being able to run out 5 players that are all 6'5+.

I think the size and athleticism issues that last year's team caused for other teams is overlooked as a reason for their success. Opposing teams(except UConn who was similarly big but had an exceptional 7 footer) just couldn't keep the Illini off the boards or from scoring inside. The only two teams we really struggled with had 7'2 and 7'4 guys that went top 10 in the NBA draft(Edey was over drafted imo - also like our chances in a 3rd matchup).

Some combination of a 6'5 Kasparis, 6'6 Ty, 6'7 Tre, 6'9 Riley, 6'9 Humrichous, 6'9 Morez, 6'10 Booth, and 7'1 Ivisic would create huge matchup problems for most opposing teams.
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Kasparis and Boswell should be able to work fine together. Doesn't really hurt anything if Boswell brings the ball up. Then you've got Kasparis in position to deploy all the point guard skills.
 
#275      
The Galloping Ghost
I absolutely can't blame Fears for wanting to grab that cash now. If someone is willing to pay you for something you are currently doing for free, take the money. Though, gotta admit, I was looking forward to seeing him wear orange and blue next year. The thing is, the foundation is still there and with the transfer portal, our paths could cross again. I hope they do. Till then, show out young man.
 
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