Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Offensively we looked disinterested in doing much more than shooting early threes. Not sure if the schedule got to us or it was just a letdown game after a big game and a road trip.

Big picture, I hope this doesn't cost us a seed later, but it just looked more like a clunker one-off. We'll see here soon if that's true.
 
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Offensively we looked disinterested in doing much more than shooting early threes. Not sure if the schedule got to us or it was just a letdown game after a big game and a road trip.

Big picture, I hope this doesn't cost us a seed later, but it just looked more like a clunker one-off. We'll see here soon if that's true.
We've been ahead of schedule in terms of coming together as a team. I just think we saw a bit of reversion.

I also think you just don't have many consistently good teams. So part of this is just how college basketball works now.

And of course live by the three die by the three.
 
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We've been ahead of schedule in terms of coming together as a team. I just think we saw a bit of reversion.

I also think you just don't have many consistently good teams. So part of this is just how college basketball works now.

And of course live by the three die by the three.
This. Especially selfish, out of control and needless threes. Kylan and Tre need to have a bit of a shot discipline discussion with Brad. Kylan was flat out disappointing across the board.
 
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This. Especially selfish, out of control and needless threes. Kylan and Tre need to have a bit of a shot discipline discussion with Brad. Kylan was flat out disappointing across the board.
Weird, because early in the year he was hesitant and kind of reluctant to shoot... just looks like he has no idea with the how/what aspects of his shots right now.

Outside of a few moments (Oregon) he's really struggled with the shooting.
 
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We've been ahead of schedule in terms of coming together as a team. I just think we saw a bit of reversion.

I also think you just don't have many consistently good teams. So part of this is just how college basketball works now.

And of course live by the three die by the three.
I agree with the bolded. And USC is not some pushover - they have a lot of talent (like all Muselman teams).
 
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Yeah, I forget it sometimes that he should be a high school senior while his skills can qualify for a reclass the physicality of the college currently, he has no answer for. Give him a year to bulk up and gain 15 to 20 lbs. of muscle and strength and watch out next year!!
 
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It’s hard to maintain #13 performance when you’re missing the projected 5th overall pick in the NBA draft.

Without KJ, we lose at Washington and the Oregon game is a lot closer (possibly a toss up) based on how things were trending in the 2nd half until he came back into the game.

Bottom line: don’t hold KJ out unless he’s actually injured. D. Piper reported he was playing 5-on-5 yesterday. He could’ve played. It cost us a win and every game without him is a toss up, at best.
 
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This. Especially selfish, out of control and needless threes. Kylan and Tre need to have a bit of a shot discipline discussion with Brad. Kylan was flat out disappointing across the board.
Yeah, I think this is one where the "bad shooting night" can be attributed to lackadaisical ball movement and bad shot selection. This isn't the type of game where we had a bunch of open shots and they just didn't go in.
 
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It’s hard to maintain #13 performance when you’re missing the projected 5th overall pick in the NBA draft.

Without KJ, we lose at Washington and the Oregon game is a lot closer (possibly a toss up) based on how things were trending in the 2nd half until he came back into the game.

Bottom line: don’t hold KJ out unless he’s actually injured. D. Piper reported he was playing 5-on-5 yesterday. He could’ve played. It cost us a win and every game without him is a toss up, at best.
I said it before and I will say it again he’s the only player maker on this team, he always set the table for everyone else to feed adequately.
 
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I said it before and I will say it again he’s the only player maker on this team, he always set the table for everyone else to feed adequately.
I don't agree. While clearly KJ's the best playmaker on this team, there are many other guys who've stepped up in the clutch when we've needed it.
 
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I don't agree. While clearly KJ's the best playmaker on this team, there are many other guys who've stepped up in the clutch when we've needed it.
You can see the efficiency of “other “ part time or sometimes play makers yesterday.Let’s not fool ourselves if I can’t rely on you to show up every time and when it matters it’s like a crapshoot.
 
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You can see the efficiency of “other “ part time or sometimes play makers yesterday.Let’s not fool ourselves if I can’t rely on you to show up every time and when it matters it’s like a crapshoot.
Yesterday was one game. Our team did not show up to play. We can't rely on KJ to be successful every time either. Watch the end of the Tennessee game. Heck, watch the beginning of the Oregon game when a whole bunch of players from our team stepped up when KJ got himself into some early foul difficulties. Every player's a crapshoot. KJ's our best chance of winning a crapshoot, but in the end, he's still a crapshoot. That's basketball.
 
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The question becomes what does year 2 Will Riley cost ... And is it worth it ...
From a cost compared to return perspective I have to assume that KJ is the biggest value/$ on the roster this year. Can you share who is on the lower end? Will? I have to assume a 5star freshman gets a good amount of NIL, and while he hasn't been terrible and there are a lot of games left to play, I wonder if he's the one we're getting the lowest value/$? I understand if you can't really answer the question directly, but anything you can share that would shed a little more light on this would be appreciated.
 
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I said it before and I will say it again he’s the only player maker on this team, he always set the table for everyone else to feed adequately.
I don't agree. While clearly KJ's the best playmaker on this team, there are many other guys who've stepped up in the clutch when we've needed it.
You're both right, as this team does have multiple playmakers, but he's the only one that I trust to do it consistently. Yesterday's game proved that the others cannot initiate offense and "play-make" to that level, and do it consistently on a game in and game out basis.
 
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While I want him to play better, there's a good chance for a Will Riley year two
I'm obviously biased in my eval, but even if Riley could get drafted in the 2nd round, it would be criminal for him to go to the NBA after the season is over. He desperately needs to gain strength, especially in his legs. He consistently gets pushed off his spots because of his lack of strength. An additional full year with Fletch and major development could easily catapult Riley into the lottery (he isn't sniffing it right now).
 
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What Brad says to the media and publicly isn't always what Brad is really thinking ...
As much as I love Brad, I don't see how Hamer is too blame here. I believe you that he isnt the guy in recruiting but the numbers show our Defense is the best in BU's tenure.

The head coach made the decision to go over screens on a guy who is 29% career from 3. Ultimately, allowing him destroy you for 31 points and dictate pace over 4 quarters......

Not just a Ben Hum-like heater over a short period. That's what is upsetting
 
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Its Loyola's PnR, it's "we are gonna keep attacking Clingan"....
You watch a team torch us in one particular area and they will continue going to that well because Brad WILL NOT change his game plan.

And he'll roll into the press conference and throw out the same, "Over the course of 4 quarters we believe that this plan will ultimately prevail"....

That's phenomenal, metrics are great!

What's also REAL? THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. Confidence beats metrics. Once a guy gets going it's hard to stop!
 
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Its Loyola's PnR, it's "we are gonna keep attacking Clingan"....
You watch a team torch us in one particular area and they will continue going to that well because Brad WILL NOT change his game plan.

And he'll roll into the press conference and throw out the same, "Over the course of 4 quarters we believe that this plan will ultimately prevail"....

That's phenomenal, metrics are great!

What's also REAL? THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. Confidence beats metrics. Once a guy gets going it's hard to stop!
It's weird because he's very open-minded in general - I would say way more than most coaches. He has no problem changing offensive strategies to suit his roster from season to season, which a lot of coaches won't do. But it seems like he has a few games each year, where it's obvious what the opponent is doing, and he doesn't make a change in-game. The Loyala tournament game being a perfect example - anyone could see what Loyala was running and we did nothing to counter it and they just keep doing it.

That said, there is no perfect coach. Even the all-time greats have bad games (and bad seasons if they coach long enough). We're sensitive to Brad's negatives because we watch every game. But we don't have that same awareness with other coaches.
 
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What Brad says to the media and publicly isn't always what Brad is really thinking ...
Thank you for this. Posters like to applaud Brad for his honesty and forthrightness. Is Brad honest? Ehhh.... Probably for the most part, but many times, you can tell by his deliberate choice of words, pausing, etc. that he is doing "coach-speak". In this presser, he later he shifted it to the players, caught himself, and semi-repeated 'it's on me' seeming to keep that narrative going. Of course, he's not alone in this.

Side note.... Musselman's first 3 minutes of his post game gave the blueprint to beat us and USC executed it extremely well.
 
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