Yes, we need athletes, not Iowa retreads.
I’m becoming increasingly concerned about Brad’s judgment. And, the top move, firing Hamer, hasn’t happened yet and doesn’t appear to be imminent. Hope I’m wrong on both accounts.
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I’m becoming increasingly concerned about Brad’s judgment. And, the top move, firing Hamer, hasn’t happened yet and doesn’t appear to be imminent. Hope I’m wrong on both accounts.
I've wasted more hours of my life following basketball recruiting/building the next years Illini roster more than any human should in their life, I loved it.
This is it for me I can't do it anymore I have no idea how these coaches do it. Wake me up when the roster is set.
This is it for me I can't do it anymore I have no idea how these coaches do it. Wake me up when the roster is set.
Deep cuts. I love it!
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Now that was some elite Loyalty After Dark
So basically we could have no team and start from scratch while others have figured out how to keep their core.
This is brutal
Not sure how’d I’d like to be Kylan Boswell, the leader of the team. The kid from Champaign, the kid that locked Dix up. & know he’s gonna get 2 mil & from what I’ve heard that’s over double what Kylan is getting…
Honestly what’re we doing..
seems like Tyler is still in charge of the portal. Dix has Tyler written all over it imo.
If we lose Kylan I’m done with this coaching staff
Honestly what’re we doing..
seems like Tyler is still in charge of the portal. Dix has Tyler written all over it imo.
If we lose Kylan I’m done with this coaching staff
Big Jack
- Decatur
Only one missing was the hot dog vendor and a barber.
Big Jack
- Decatur
The reality with our coaching staff is that there is an uncomfortable amount red flags piling up. Necessary course Corrections are not being made. Now we may choose to ignore them but to think any real changes are going to be made... The track record seems to point towards unlikely. We can try to put it on NIL circumstances and that to a certain extent is valid. But dang it, things just aren't right anymore.
Hawk and Goode transferred. Podz, RJ, Clark, Morez, Dain, Epps, Curbelo, Ty (sitting) all left over the last few years because they’re weren’t happy with their minutes or how they were used. Even if we ignore Hansberry and Sincere leaving because of Chet, that’s still a lot of talent leaving that it is a problem we cannot ignore.
Look at how MSU and Purdue is handling the last couple of years. Purdue is taking less heralded recruits retaining them for 3-4 years and helping them improve year over year. MSU had highly ranked recruits like Booker, Fears, and Carr, barely played them as a Freshman and were still able to retain them.
These programs had their players buying into the culture, the system, and player development where the temptation of portal, NIL, and bigger minutes elsewhere is less of a problem.
Just looked at Morez high school stats and sort of shocked he shot 32% from 3 taking 50 shots his senior year. However, scouting report basically said he lacked offensive ability but a beast down low. I’m pretty confident Illini coaches are good at noticing players’ capabilities and decided Morez was not someone you want jacking up 3’s and certainly not capable of having what it takes to play more on the perimeter. You never know how these huge, physically developed, athletic kids who dominate in high school will respond when they play other kids in college who share the same traits. I think Morez struggled at Illinois but was coming along ok in the role he was assigned. I’ll be shocked if he makes it to the nba - wish we still had him but such is life.
NASchamp
- Atlanta
Well according to Tyler’s analytics, Ben will shoot lights out all next year since he missed almost everything he threw up this season.
We just didn’t let him shoot his way out of his slump yet!!!
Sad to say it but this NIL has nuked everything to the point that unless you are paying your starters 1-2M minimum you have no chance to likely even get to the final four yet alone win a natty! Very sad times for college basketball. Unless a universal cap is put in place very soon with every school being required to show NIL financials this will quickly go to 5-10 schools essentially playing for the championship every year. This has to get to a point where the NIL is there for everyone but the deciding factors on where they play are the intangibles like coaching success, training, schedules and NBA past success. We will also see a very large amount of schools move out of Div1 and we will be left with about 100-150 teams for basketball at the D1 level if things don't change.
I can’t wrap my head around how we went from we have a core 4 of Tomi, Rez, Bam, tre. And going to bring in Sarr (done deal was said multiple times)…oh and a “blockbuster” lead guard was also said by some people we should “trust” just 2 days ago. To today…every single guy above is maybe leaving or not coming. Rez is gone.. How does this happen and who’s to blame? Boosters, coaches, NIL. All the above?
Steelyunk
- Tobacco Road
This is spot on. They’ve blown up the conferences, rosters turn over every year, late night west coast tip-offs for weeknight games, peacock, B1G+.
Hawk and Goode transferred. Podz, RJ, Clark, Morez, Dain, Epps, Curbelo, Ty (sitting) all left over the last few years because they’re weren’t happy with their minutes or how they were used. Even if we ignore Hansberry and Sincere leaving because of Chet, that’s still a lot of talent leaving that it is a problem we cannot ignore.
Look at how MSU and Purdue is handling the last couple of years. Purdue is taking less heralded recruits retaining them for 3-4 years and helping them improve year over year. MSU had highly ranked recruits like Booker, Fears, and Carr, barely played them as a Freshman and were still able to retain them.
These programs had their players buying into the culture, the system, and player development where the temptation of portal, NIL, and bigger minutes elsewhere is less of a problem.
Look at how MSU and Purdue is handling the last couple of years. Purdue is taking less heralded recruits retaining them for 3-4 years and helping them improve year over year. MSU had highly ranked recruits like Booker, Fears, and Carr, barely played them as a Freshman and were still able to retain them.
These programs had their players buying into the culture, the system, and player development where the temptation of portal, NIL, and bigger minutes elsewhere is less of a problem.
Bro bobble ... exactly the mix of incoming freshman and older more experienced transfers is a chemistry experiment...the coaching staff has no way of knowing how the mixture will react.
Exactly. This team will be forgotten in 2 years. Most loyal fans can name players from teams going back to when they were teenagers. I won’t care to remember any of these teams one bit.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
This is just bad from both sides.
On the side of Morez and dad, let’s be real please. All of that is just a smoke screen for you leaving for more money. Period. The. End.
If Morez suddenly start’s shooting 3’s and making them, we can all eat crow, but Kofi? And Dain?? Come on man.
On the staff side, you can’t stop something like this these days, but also you’ve got some serious issues.
Running it back with Hamer and Tyler if even half of the rumors are true is absolute program malpractice.
On the side of Morez and dad, let’s be real please. All of that is just a smoke screen for you leaving for more money. Period. The. End.
If Morez suddenly start’s shooting 3’s and making them, we can all eat crow, but Kofi? And Dain?? Come on man.
On the staff side, you can’t stop something like this these days, but also you’ve got some serious issues.
Running it back with Hamer and Tyler if even half of the rumors are true is absolute program malpractice.
I mean I don't blame them for the recruitment. If Hum is knocking down 3s at a 40% clip he is worth a spot even if he is a turnstile on defense
Steelyunk
- Tobacco Road
Fair enough… having a winning team is certainly what it’s all about. But I anlso enjoy watching these kids grow throughout their college careers. Rooting for the player is a huge part of being a fan. Everybody points to Ayo, Trent and Damonte and there’s a reason: we got to know them a little as they grew and became more skilled. We rooted for the people that made up the team and gave the team its identity. What was this team’s identity? Whatever it was will probably be completely different next year. I think it’s just harder to love the team.
I think dad's point re: Kofi & Dain isn't that they weren't successful at Illinois... its that they aren't in the league because we didn't have them shooting 18 footers and 3 pointers... but those guys mid-range and threes did not see any uptick after leaving Illinois...
Whole situation sucks
Whole situation sucks
That's not a hot take, imo
Morez is more replaceable than Tomi... his ability to pass & shoot are extremely difficult to come by
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