Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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The only two transfers I recall there was significant hype from the insiders for was Storr and Dante Maddox. The rest were just names of interest tossed out that had no real traction. The previous year, RayJay Dennis was the lone hype train player.
Every player I listed was as much in the frame as Sellers, Dix or Lendeborg are at this moment, that's my point. Egor Demin and Jamir Watkins too.

Everybody just pencils in the best possible five-card flush as if there's no competition. It was exactly the same when it was the best in-state HS juniors.
 
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how much of an impact did Jakucionis have on the sarr front if any
 
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I live in Las Vegas lots of UCLA alumni out here. Talked to a friend of mine that’s a UCLA alum and booster that’s close to basketball program. According to him and a former UCLA basketball player I know UCLA is going all in Morez . He did tell me Aday Mara UCLA 7’3” center was transferring a couple of weeks ago and it was just announced yesterday
 
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Ben was put in a horrific spot. Some was due to injury and some was due to the roster having absolutely zero depth in the frontcourt.

That's a good kid that did everything that he was asked to do..,..,

What? Dude was getting 30 min a game and an unlimited green light!
He didn’t succeed at what he was paid handsomely to come do, and when the staff finally made a change….injuries, more Will and Rez, he was just ok in his reserve roll.

He is a clear example of a shooter that thrived at a lower level with less physical defense and smaller 2s and 3s to shoot over.

He’s not a bad kid, he’s also not a B1G player.
 
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My favorite thing we do every year is project out lineups based on guys available as of the first week or two of the offseason.

There are names nowhere near anyone's radars yet that will be available in the coming weeks/NBA draft dropouts that work is already being done on. We sit well with multiple current targets, but staff has much more in the pipeline. Stay tuned.
To be fair, for most of us, that was a relatively safe bet to do for the overwhelming majority of the time we have followed college basketball. Old habits die hard.
 
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And that's totally understandable. People have preferences on what they want 1-9 to look like. It's the backhanded and critical(degrading) comments that I take issue with.

A religious kid, who was the whipping boy for the season, was threatened on social media, his family ridiculed at games, who was fully aware of the bashing he was getting(made a comment saying that he knew not many people liked him at one of his sermons) and now more that a WEEK after the season ends....he's still catching cr@p? C'mon...enough is enough.

You're respectful about it, but some people here just don't stop and it's like.....why? Is it a feel good thing?
 
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What? Dude was getting 30 min a game and an unlimited green light!
He didn’t succeed at what he was paid handsomely to come do, and when the staff finally made a change….injuries, more Will and Rez, he was just ok in his reserve roll.

He is a clear example of a shooter that thrived at a lower level with less physical defense and smaller 2s and 3s to shoot over.

He’s not a bad kid, he’s also not a B1G player.

This …
 
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Honestly, I’d rather we be watching Illinois play in the Final Four right now. But this is a nice fallback activity. 😎
 
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Well, to get ahead of the next wave of this.

Kylan Boswell was the highest ranked transfer we got last year on 247's list, at #36, and Carey Booth at #92 was the only other top 100 transfer we got.

The insiders blew significant smoke about our chances with (including a couple that were very publicly declared to be done deals)

#1 Kadary Richmond
#4 AJ Storr
#9 Javon Small
#20 Brandon Garrison
#21 Coleman Hawkins
#30 Desmond Claude
#31 Otega Oweh
#74 Trey Townsend
#75 Saint Thomas
#86 Ryan Conwell
#98 Marcus Hill

It will all follow the same patterns, with the same claims of our overwhelming NIL prowess, and lots of these guys are going to commit elsewhere.

And at the end of the day, BU will have amassed a ton of talent, with mysteries about how it's all supposed to fit together.

It's just how the cycle goes.


Oh yeah, this too. Guys who are considered locks for the portal will stay in the draft or at their current school. Jamir Watkins is a Seminole and Max Christie is a Laker.
Yeah fair - we'll see. I will say that suddenly it seems like there's a lot of smoke on some of these, and some do seem to make sense.

From my complete outsider perspective, our targets in order of most to least likely to commit would be:
1) Big Z. Seems like a no-brainer for both sides. Might already be a done deal at this point?
2) Sellers - of his self-professed top 4, we would seem to be BY FAR the most likely to make the tournament given our track record. So I could see that being attractive to him if he wants to come be Justin Harmon v2. If he's more interested in a bigger bag, then maybe we get outbid.
3) Sarr - obvious connection with KJ and GA. But his recent high profile performances with the big boys certainly make me a bit nervous that the blue bloods jump in with big money that we don't want to match. But if Duke is indeed the only main competition, and if they are likely to get Ament, maybe we can seal the deal here.
4) Dix. This one wouldn't surprise me if it fell through. About the only thing in favor here in my view is the insider posters saying Brad really wants him.
5) Sandfort - maybe if Dix does come he'd want to also? I don't know. I don't see how we end up with more than 2 of Ty, Jake, and Sandfort - and maybe just having 1 of those is the most likely scenario at the end of the day?
6) Yaxel - seems pretty unlikely to me. He seems great so I'd love to be wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear he ends up getting 3m or so.
 
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Dont wring the skin off your hands, our big gets last year were in May and June
 
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Why? You didn't like a guy who was brought in to play the role of being a spot up shooter, but ended up being the backup 5, which he wasn't the least bit prepared to do?

A 34% three point shooter, which is one of the better percentages, on a team that shot the team like trash was one of your big issues?

I don't think that people(don't think that I'm calling just you out), understand what was happening last year. Ben was put in a horrific spot. Some was due to injury and some was due to the roster having absolutely zero depth in the frontcourt.

If Ben came back as the second or third guy off the bench, he'd be phenomenal in that role. Not tooany teams have 6'9" coming off the bench that is a threat from the perimeter and in a pinch, he can old his own and give you some minutes in the paint.

That's a good kid that did everything that he was asked to do and I'm sure he didn't sign up for a lot of it. Not sure why you're feeling the need to stab him in the back?
He ended up on the bench because he absolutely sucked as a starter....in the spot they wanted him. That he was getting 30 MPG is laughable. He was a turnstile on defense that was targeted throughout the season. 34% after clanking wide open shot after wide open shot where he legitimately never moves on offense isn't good enough when he's being torched defensively.

I don't mind as a very spot minute guy off the bench. Albeit he offers nothing Big Z doesn't & frankly, at a minimum, likely nothing more that Jake/Jakstys would in that same limited minute breather role. But let's not paint this narrative "he was put in a bad spot". He was put into a bench spot because he was horrible in the initial starting role they gave him. If they want to throw an end of bench spot to him, cool.

He wasn't cut up for this level. And that's ok.
 
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Why? You didn't like a guy who was brought in to play the role of being a spot up shooter, but ended up being the backup 5, which he wasn't the least bit prepared to do?

A 34% three point shooter, which is one of the better percentages, on a team that shot the team like trash was one of your big issues?

I don't think that people(don't think that I'm calling just you out), understand what was happening last year. Ben was put in a horrific spot. Some was due to injury and some was due to the roster having absolutely zero depth in the frontcourt.

If Ben came back as the second or third guy off the bench, he'd be phenomenal in that role. Not tooany teams have 6'9" coming off the bench that is a threat from the perimeter and in a pinch, he can old his own and give you some minutes in the paint.

That's a good kid that did everything that he was asked to do and I'm sure he didn't sign up for a lot of it. Not sure why you're feeling the need to stab him in the back?
if you look at per minute stats, which makes sense to me because if you are on the court, you should be producing better than the guys on the bench, then Ben is one of our worst players. If you look at only the 9 guys that actually saw the floor, Ben was:

8 of 9 in FTs attempted. Since he never really drove he never got fouled.
9 out of 9 in points per minute. He pretty much only shot 3s (75% of his shots) and 34% just isn't going to cut it, if you're supposed to be a specialist.
8 of 9 in rebounds per minute. If you're playing the 4, you've got to rebound.
5 of 9 in assist per minute. So that's not bad at least.

That just isn't going to cut it, especially when your defense was suspect too. He is simply not a P5 level starter, likely not a P5 level player.
 
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